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No Vested Interest

(5,165 posts)
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 03:08 AM Apr 2014

Does anyone remember when on Good Friday we had

the Mass of the Presanctified?
The hosts were transubstantiated at Holy Thursday Mass and the service on Good Friday was more like a communion service.
They don't seem to have that any more.

Does anyone remember when and why that change was made?

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Does anyone remember when on Good Friday we had (Original Post) No Vested Interest Apr 2014 OP
As far as I know it all goes down it is just not well advertised anymore Exposethefrauds Apr 2014 #1
Welcome to DU! rug Apr 2014 #3
Thank you. I have my church schedule for today. No Vested Interest Apr 2014 #5
Well that may be too old school today. I do remember almost every day before, during and after Exposethefrauds Apr 2014 #6
I never heard of it. rug Apr 2014 #2
We still have it here, during the afternoon goldent Apr 2014 #4
The term isn't used any more tjwmason Apr 2014 #7
We use the term pre-sanctified for Good Friday's service in the Episcopal Church. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #8
 

Exposethefrauds

(531 posts)
1. As far as I know it all goes down it is just not well advertised anymore
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 05:26 AM
Apr 2014

I am no longer a Christian/Catholic but some folks at work still are and go do church stuff, like mass and want not all the time during the day because of various holy days and religious obligations.

call your local church I am sure they will let you know whats doing on.



No Vested Interest

(5,165 posts)
5. Thank you. I have my church schedule for today.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 01:55 PM
Apr 2014

What I'm pointing out is that RC churches -at least in my area- are not offering communion on Good Friday.
There are services, including the stations of the cross, etc.

Just not including the communion service, called the Mass of the Presanctified, anymore.

 

Exposethefrauds

(531 posts)
6. Well that may be too old school today. I do remember almost every day before, during and after
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 05:36 PM
Apr 2014

the holiday daily mass had a name like you mentioned. Even back then I could not keep up with the names. The are some Hardcore Catholic Churches still, some even do the mass in Latin for the real old school types. Browse some catholic websites but be warned the knowledge you seek will bring you to into the realm of the Bill Donohue and Mel Gibson types, ye has been warned.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
2. I never heard of it.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 09:30 AM
Apr 2014
Mass of the presanctified

To return to the Roman Rite, when the ceremony of adoring and kissing the Cross is concluded, the Cross is placed aloft on the altar between lighted candles, a procession is formed which proceeds to the chapel of repose, where the second sacred host consecrated in yesterday's Mass has since lain entombed in a gorgeously decorated urn and surrounded by lights and flowers. This urn represents the sepulchre of Christ (decree of S.C.R., n. 3933, ad I). The Most Holy Sacrament is now carried back to the altar in solemn procession, during which is sung the hymn "Vexilla Regis prodeunt" (The standards of the King advance). Arrived in the sanctuary the clergy go to their places retaining lighted candles, while the celebrant and his ministers ascend the altar and celebrate what is called the Mass of the Presanctified. This is not a Mass in the strict sense of the word, as there is no consecration of the sacred species. The host which was consecrated in yesterday's Mass (hence the word presanctified) is placed on the altar, incensed, elevated ("that it may be seen by the people&quot , and consumed by the celebrant. It is substantially the Communion part of the Mass, beginning with the "Pater noster" which marks the end of the Canon. From the very earliest times it was the custom not to celebrate the Mass proper on Good Friday. Speaking about this ceremony Duchesne (249) says,

It is merely the Communion separated from the liturgical celebration of the Eucharist properly so called. The details of the ceremony are not found earlier than in books of the eighth or ninth century, but the service must belong to a much earlier period. At the time when synaxes without liturgy were frequent, the 'Mass of the Presanctified' must have been frequent also. In the Greek Church it was celebrated every day in Lent except on Saturdays and Sundays, but in the Latin Church it was confined to Good Friday.

At present [1909] the celebrant alone communicates, but it appears from the old Roman Ordines that formerly all present communicated (Martene, III, 367). The omission of the Mass proper marks in the mind of the Church the deep sorrow with which she keeps the anniversary of the Sacrifice of Calvary. Good Friday is a feast of grief. A black fast, black vestments, a denuded altar, the slow and solemn chanting of the sufferings of Christ, prayers for all those for whom He died, the unveiling and reverencing of the Crucifix, these take the place of the usual festal liturgy; while the lights in the chapel of repose and the Mass of the Presanctified is followed by the recital of vespers, and the removal of the linen cloth from the altar ("Vespers are recited without chant and the altar is denuded&quot .

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06643a.htm

goldent

(1,582 posts)
4. We still have it here, during the afternoon
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 10:58 AM
Apr 2014

It's not that well attended given many people have to work during that time and it's not a Holy Day of obligation.

tjwmason

(14,819 posts)
7. The term isn't used any more
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 08:04 AM
Apr 2014

But Holy Communion is given from hosts consecrated on Thursday.

At the end of Mass on Maundy Thursday there's a procession of the Blessed Sacrament to a garden of repose, where watch can be kept (the church I was at stayed until midnight). Then as part of the liturgy of Good Friday, after the veneration of the Cross the Sacrament is brought back to the altar and Holy Communion given.

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