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Eta - IMO there is an interesting distinction to be made between left and right antisemitism in that the right wing bigots know they are bigots but don't care, but left wing bigots believe their own bs about Zionists and Jews. I think that makes them more concerning in a way.
Beakybird
(3,330 posts)tblue37
(65,217 posts)Mosby
(16,258 posts)Behind the Aegis
(53,919 posts)Of course, some think anti-Semitism is OK when it is enveloped in the "whataboutism" of Israel or Zionism. Try to discuss anti-Semitism and there is always someone who comes along and whines about Israel, Bibi, or some other Israeli, or Zionism. The really disgusting ones actually blame anti-Semitism on Israel; that's a good indicator the person is also an anti-Semite or is clueless about anti-Semitism and is too busy making excuse for anti-Semites. I read a quote the other day that said something along the lines of "if you are only interested in anti-Semitism from the "other side of the political fence", then you aren't really interested in anti-Semitism at all." That's the goddamned truth!
Sometimes I seriously wonder if people think the anti-Semitism in Europe was only from the right and that the success of the pogroms and the Holocaust, though mainly spurred on by right-leaning forces, would have been as successful if it weren't from lazy, hateful anti-Semites of the left providing cover; much as some do today.
EllieBC
(2,989 posts)100% ignore threads like this.
I wish DU had a member tagging feature.
Behind the Aegis
(53,919 posts)They also ignore what is actually written in the articles and start their "whataboutism" with Israel, and on occasion, Zionism.
Behind the Aegis
(53,919 posts)Mannys builds a real-life space for civic discourse in SF
Much of our civic discourse has moved online, and, while the digitization of speech has meant its democratization, it has also unleashed a monster. Megaphones have been placed in the hands of trolls, bigots and at the fringes of public discourse, weaponizing their hate and disrupting our democracy with surprising efficacy.
I worked on both the Obama and Clinton campaigns and, after 2016, was struck by the thirst for civic engagement. Here was a citizenry, with their hands raised, looking for a starting place for action and unsure of how to begin thats what 2016 inspired. Seeing this problem, I gathered a community to build a physical civic events space called Mannys at the corner of 16th and Valencia streets in San Francisco.
We opened our doors to more than 500 people who came to await the midterm election results on election night. All the slices of life from our incredible city came to watch in community, hoping for good news, and to celebrate together when it came. It was electrifying.
Since then, the response to Mannys has been overwhelming, with civic programming almost every night, and the space booked solid. Weve had talks on topics ranging from Black Lives Matter to environmental justice to criminal justice reform.
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The building has been vandalized with anti-Semitic graffiti, is the target of weekly protests, and the business has been ideologically extorted: tell us if youre a Zionist so we can try to drive you out of business. Given the mission of Mannys, we have invited these individuals into the space for dialogue, but their goal is to shut down discourse, not engage in it.
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Mosby
(16,258 posts)I like that he talked about his family.