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Forget New York: The nexus of American Jewish cultural and political achievement is found deep in the woods of northwestern Wisconsin. Want to see it? Drive north from Siren and just keep going. Past the drive-through liquor store. Past the canoe still wedged into a tree. Past the signs in Webster advertising the meat raffle (its exactly what it sounds like). Hidden in the expanse of red pines is Herzl Camp, a Jewish summer camp where I spent six years as a camper and another four as a counselor.
OK, so maybe nexus is a little strong, but take a look at some of the camps other alumni: Bob Dylan. The Coen Brothers. Thomas L. Friedman. Debbie Friedman. Abe Foxman. The guy who wrote Funkytown. Those are some serious Elders of Zion. In fact, its not surprising that someone harboring dark obsessions about Jewish power and influence in American life has begun to connect the dots (how else can you explain Funkytowns success?).
The Coen Brothers were recently interviewed on NPRs Fresh Air with Terry Gross about their new movie, Inside Llewyn Davis, which is about a Bob Dylan-esque folk singer. Gross mentioned that Dylan and the Coens had all attended Herzl Camp. One of the Coens (the interview was on radio, so I couldnt differentiate between themlets call them Acerbic Coen and Sardonic Coen) thought that Dylans Herzl heritage was merely an urban myth, but Acerbic Coen pointed out that no, Dylans biography features photos of him playing his guitar at the camp.
Is this the kind of summer camp where you sing songs with lyrics about how great the camp is, and then theres team songs with how great the team is? Gross asked.
No, said Sardonic Coen. It was a Zionist summer camp, and you sang Zionist songs in Hebrew. He said that last sentence in the same tone that he might have said, The doctors botched my hernia operation or We got beaten at the Oscars by The English Patient.
So, from this nugget of Zionist geography (its like Jewish geography, but more sinister), Philip Weiss, proprietor of the rabidly anti-Zionist site Mondoweiss, extrapolated that American Jews need to take that indoctrination apart to understand who we are as religious supporters of settler colonialism. Those are some pretty serious charges. Was I indoctrinated as a nine-year-old to support settler colonialism? I was on the camps education team for three years when I was on staffam I complicit in brainwashing children and teens?
http://www.thetower.org/article/was-my-jewish-summer-camp-trying-to-indoctrinate-me/
King_David
(14,851 posts)I don't think he deserves this "publicity".
Mosby
(16,297 posts)Pink's experiences at camp were very positive, he does not think he was being indoctonated.