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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 11:30 AM Nov 2013

Bacterial Competition In Lab Shows Evolution Never Stops

Evolution is relentless process that seems to keep going and going, even when creatures live in a stable, unchanging world.

That's the latest surprise from a unique experiment that's been underway for more than a quarter-century.

Evolution is so important for biology, medicine and a general understanding of our world that scientists want to understand it as fully as possible. That's why, in 1988, biologist Richard Lenski took a dozen glass flasks and added identical bacteria to each of them. Those 12 populations have been evolving ever since, letting scientists watch evolution in real time.

Day after day — including holidays and weekends — workers in Lenski's lab at Michigan State University in East Lansing feed and care for the E. coli bacteria. The bacteria eat and divide again and again. The original microbes have produced more than 50,000 generations over the last 25 years.

Random mutations have allowed them to get fitter, meaning they reproduce faster. "In evolutionary biology, fitness is this representation of the ability of an organism to survive and reproduce," says Lenski. He explains that all else being equal, organisms that reproduce more quickly will have an advantage when competing with those that reproduce more slowly.

Early on, Lenski predicted his bacteria would adapt and adapt but eventually hit a wall — that they would reach a peak level of fitness they couldn't improve on.

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http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/11/15/245168252/bacterial-competition-in-lab-shows-evolution-never-stops

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Bacterial Competition In Lab Shows Evolution Never Stops (Original Post) n2doc Nov 2013 OP
An iconic biological experiment. longship Nov 2013 #1
That was AWESOME!! lastlib Nov 2013 #2
Conservapedia is a joke Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2013 #4
two comments phantom power Nov 2013 #3
"Scientists have noted that Flasks # 4 & # 8 have evolved the fastest and are starting to... BlueJazz Nov 2013 #5

longship

(40,416 posts)
1. An iconic biological experiment.
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 12:22 PM
Nov 2013

Lenski has already demonstrated E. coli evolving the ability to consume citrate. This is an experiment that takes a lifetime of dedication.

When the citrate trait was announced, Phyllis Schlafly's dim son, Andrew published on his idiotic Conservapedia site questioning Lenski's paper because it supported evil evolution. Lenski's take down of Andrew Schlafly is as iconic as his experiment. It was reported on by PZ Myers.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
4. Conservapedia is a joke
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 10:10 AM
Nov 2013

There is an unfathomable bias in Conservapedia against the Theory of Relativity, with claims that physics has been corrupted by liberal influences. Apparently, Schlafly confuses relativity in physics with moral relativity. He has said, "E=mc2 seems to be based on politics rather than physics."

Schlafly believes that the mathematical method of proof by contradiction is somehow flawed. Despite his having a degree in electrical engineering, Schlafly denounces imaginary numbers. Schlafly is young earth creationist.

However, my favorite bit from Conservapedia is the initial iteration of the article on Florence, Italy, which I quote in full:

Florence is a medieval city of the Medicis on the River Ebro in the Italian region of Tucsony. It is known for David's statue, the baptistery and the Dome.


For those of you who have a geography deficit, the Ebro is in Spain, Florence is on the Arno. Tucsony is probably in Arizony. "Dome" is, I suspect, a typo for Duomo, Italian for "cathedral".


phantom power

(25,966 posts)
3. two comments
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 03:26 PM
Nov 2013

1) thinking of their environment as unchanging is wrong, because the bacteria themselves are part of their own environment. Organisms deform their own fitness landscapes whenever they change, in a way that is kind of analogous to a mass deforming the spacetime it resides in.

2) when he says the rate of fitness increase is slowing down, I wonder if it's something like this, where fitness can increase continuously, but rate doesn't just slow down, it slows down toward an asymptote. You can increase forever, but still be up against a wall.



 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
5. "Scientists have noted that Flasks # 4 & # 8 have evolved the fastest and are starting to...
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 03:26 PM
Nov 2013

....bitch about what's on the Lab TV."

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