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NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 05:50 PM Nov 2013

Finally - an update on Comet ISON and what may be coming next

http://www.skyandtelescope.com/observing/highlights/193909261.html

"November 29, 3:30 p.m. EST: A bold forecast."

"1. Since yesterday's 'resurrection,' the comet's overall dust output has clearly increased dramatically as compared with its pre-perihelion situation.

"2. Likewise, early yesterday the dust production appeared to consist almost exclusively of 'very heavy' dust particles. My impression this morning from the latest SOHO and STEREO images is that the comet is now experiencing a huge and ongoing dust release in a broad range particle sizes. If this continues, it is a very hopeful sign for visual observers in days to come.

"3. I've mentioned several times that 1962's Comet Seki-Lines is the one other modern, dynamically 'new,' truly sunskirting comet whose photometric behavior is known in some detail. It likewise experienced a strange 'disappearance' right about the time of an anticipated brightness surge at perihelion, which had been expected to bring it to naked-eye daylight visibility at around magnitude –7.

"4. A quick glance at ISON's appearance in the 12:30 UT SOHO image jogged my memory that it looks very much like another comet photo I saw long ago . . . of none other than Comet Seki-Lines! One of the earliest post-perihelion photos of Seki-Lines was one taken by, I believe, the great comet photographer of the 1960s and 70s, Alan McClure. It showed a strangely wedge-shaped, large, brilliant coma forming the beginnings of a huge, broad, tail created by an obviously wide range in dust-particle sizes. Sound familiar?:

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still hoping night time viewers with dark skies can get something memorable out of this most rare comet!
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Finally - an update on Comet ISON and what may be coming next (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Nov 2013 OP
I have a great sky view BlueToTheBone Nov 2013 #1
Here is a map of locations - you would need a star chart to see NRaleighLiberal Nov 2013 #2
I put ISON into the NASA ephemeris interface here: muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #6
Ison is turning out to be "The little comet that could" BlueJazz Nov 2013 #3
So is it going to be visible with the naked eye? SheilaT Nov 2013 #4
I think all bets are off - no one knows exactly what's going on, as far as I can tell! NRaleighLiberal Nov 2013 #5

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
2. Here is a map of locations - you would need a star chart to see
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 06:49 PM
Nov 2013

when these constellations are viewable in your area. Generally speaking, it is still very near the sun, so either in the east just before sunrise may be the best possibility in early December....I think we will get more updates once it is confirmed what remains.

See the chart here.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,301 posts)
6. I put ISON into the NASA ephemeris interface here:
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 09:51 AM
Nov 2013
http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/horizons.cgi

and that says the declination by midnight GMT Dec 23rd (the start of the week or so it's closest to Earth) is +38 degrees 56 minutes - just enough to make it circumpolar for me at about 51 degrees north, if I remember the meaning correctly (ie 90 degrees minus your latitude). By Dec 24th it's 42deg26'; Dec 25th 46 degrees. By Dec 26th it's 49deg37', which makes it just circumpolar for New York.

There's an online star chart here: http://www.fourmilab.ch/yoursky/cities.html where you can put in a major city, or your own latitude and longitude.

On edit: reading the full link in the OP, it looks like they don't expect dust and ice production for more than a week or so. Looks like I'm out of luck - too far north to see anything by then, even if I'm up at 5 in the morning.
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
4. So is it going to be visible with the naked eye?
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 10:20 PM
Nov 2013

I know it had been predicted to be pretty bright right around Christmas, but I'm guessing this is going to greatly impact the brightness quotient.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
5. I think all bets are off - no one knows exactly what's going on, as far as I can tell!
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 10:22 PM
Nov 2013

It all depends upon what's remaining after the brush with the sun. Worth using the Google for updates over the next week or so.

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