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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 10:14 PM Feb 2014

Gem found on Australian sheep ranch is the oldest known piece of Earth, scientists find


Washington: To put it mildly, this is one gem of a gem.

Scientists using two different age-determining techniques have shown that a tiny zircon crystal found on a sheep ranch in Western Australia is the oldest known piece of our planet, dating to 4.4 billion years ago.

Writing in the journal Nature Geoscience on Sunday, the researchers said the discovery indicates that Earth's crust formed relatively soon after the planet formed and that the little gem was a remnant of it.


John Valley, a University of Wisconsin geoscience professor who led the research, said the findings suggest that the early Earth was not as harsh a place as many scientists have thought.

To determine the age of the zircon fragment, the scientists first used a widely accepted dating technique based on determining the radioactive decay of uranium to lead in a mineral sample.

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http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/gem-found-on-australian-sheep-ranch-is-the-oldest-known-piece-of-earth-scientists-find-20140224-hvdkd.html
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Gem found on Australian sheep ranch is the oldest known piece of Earth, scientists find (Original Post) n2doc Feb 2014 OP
Fascinating find. defacto7 Feb 2014 #1
This is so cool. 4dsc Feb 2014 #2
That's fascinating. 2naSalit Feb 2014 #3
According to the article, it's only 200 by 400 microns- about the size of two hairs NBachers Feb 2014 #6
Have to confess 2naSalit Feb 2014 #8
Can you imagine? Stargazer09 Feb 2014 #4
Unless you have very good vision, you wouldn'y know it was there. Thor_MN Feb 2014 #13
Somebody oughta give Sarah Palin a call and clue her in....talk real slow. bkanderson76 Feb 2014 #5
Creationists Heads Exploding AnnieBW Feb 2014 #7
since when do creationists worry about *new evidence*? MisterP Feb 2014 #9
Nah, creationists don't believe in Uniformitarianism Maedhros Feb 2014 #11
When I was a kid... theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #14
How incredible! Enthusiast Feb 2014 #10
So interesting! Aldo Leopold Feb 2014 #12
In Vegas we see almost ALL of the layers.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2014 #15
Yeah,creationists may have got it right.... Theyletmeeatcake2 Feb 2014 #16
How can someone find something 2 hairs wide? Auntie Bush Feb 2014 #17

2naSalit

(86,345 posts)
3. That's fascinating.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 10:57 PM
Feb 2014

Wonder if the rancher is looking for more of it. Probably make enough to retire in a hurry if he does.

NBachers

(17,083 posts)
6. According to the article, it's only 200 by 400 microns- about the size of two hairs
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 12:21 AM
Feb 2014

"Zircons can be large and very pretty. But the ones we work on are small and not especially attractive except to a geologist," Professor Valley said. "If you held it in the palm of your hand, if you have good eyesight you could see it without a magnifying glass."

I love learning about what the smart people are doing.

2naSalit

(86,345 posts)
8. Have to confess
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 01:52 AM
Feb 2014

I didn't read the article, bookmarked it for later though. I might be thought of as an amateur rock-hound but I did take a few geology classes in college and audited a whole bunch more, like about 35crs!!! And I have a box of favorites I've found over decades that weighs more than I care to admit.



But I am still fascinated at the importance of this find, no matter the actual physical size.

Thanks for setting me straight on that. Though I still wonder if the landholder is out there looking anyway.

Stargazer09

(2,132 posts)
4. Can you imagine?
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 11:17 PM
Feb 2014

Can you imagine how weirdly awesome it would be to hold that gem in your hand?

A little piece of newborn Earth. Incredible!

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
9. since when do creationists worry about *new evidence*?
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 02:06 AM
Feb 2014

or old evidence? or philosophy? or theology? or the Bible? or

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
11. Nah, creationists don't believe in Uniformitarianism
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 01:32 PM
Feb 2014

i.e. that the processes we observe today operated identically in the past.

Radioisotopic age dating relies on uniform Uranium-to-Lead decay rates over time. Creationists simply claim that the decay rates change over time, therefore the ages determined are wildly inaccurate.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
14. When I was a kid...
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 07:12 PM
Feb 2014

I was taught in church that the Devil created fossils to confuse people and test their faith. Needless to say, this fostered my lifelong interest in paleontology.

Of course, they also told me that when a baby cried it was a sin, as the baby was only thinking of its own needs. Even my conservative and religious sister, who was maybe 9 at the time, thought that was nuts. Problems arose when we started to ask questions, upstart little squirts that we were.

Theyletmeeatcake2

(348 posts)
16. Yeah,creationists may have got it right....
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 02:57 AM
Feb 2014

God created a 4.4 billion year old rock about 5000 years ago....he is a 'can do ' man!!!!

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
17. How can someone find something 2 hairs wide?
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 10:12 PM
Feb 2014

Did they see something blue and pick it up for examination?

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