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n2doc

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Tue May 27, 2014, 04:42 PM May 2014

Physicists Prove Surprising Rule of Threes

By: Natalie Wolchover
May 27, 2014


More than 40 years after a Soviet nuclear physicist proposed an outlandish theory that trios of particles can arrange themselves in an infinite nesting-doll configuration, experimentalists have reported strong evidence that this bizarre state of matter is real.

In 1970, Vitaly Efimov was manipulating the equations of quantum mechanics in an attempt to calculate the behavior of sets of three particles, such as the protons and neutrons that populate atomic nuclei, when he discovered a law that pertained not only to nuclear ingredients but also, under the right conditions, to any trio of particles in nature.

While most forces act between pairs, such as the north and south poles of a magnet or a planet and its sun, Efimov identified an effect that requires three components to spring into action. Together, the components form a state of matter similar to Borromean rings, an ancient symbol of three interconnected circles in which no two are directly linked. The so-called Efimov “trimer” could consist of a trio of protons, a triatomic molecule or any other set of three particles, as long as their properties were tuned to the right values. And in a surprising flourish, this hypothetical state of matter exhibited an unheard-of feature: the ability to range in size from practically infinitesimal to infinite.

“It’s a pretty wild idea,” said Randy Hulet, a physics professor at Rice University in Houston. “You get this infinite series of molecules.”

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http://www.simonsfoundation.org/quanta/20140527-physicists-prove-surprising-rule-of-threes/

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Physicists Prove Surprising Rule of Threes (Original Post) n2doc May 2014 OP
Sounds neat, but I don't understand any of it. broiles May 2014 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2014 #2
Borromean rings, for the spatially impaired, like me ... GeorgeGist May 2014 #3
Hmmm. Maybe Douglas Adams was wrong... DreamGypsy May 2014 #4
That's the good kind of fuzzy math. tridim May 2014 #5
The old nesting doll theory... longship May 2014 #6
The Ramans do everything in threes. Xipe Totec May 2014 #7
I guess Lee Mercer was right! nt Javaman May 2014 #8

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DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
4. Hmmm. Maybe Douglas Adams was wrong...
Tue May 27, 2014, 05:43 PM
May 2014

and the real answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything is 22.7.

The nesting-doll feature — called discrete scale invariance — arose from a symmetry in the equation describing the forces between three particles. If the particles satisfied the equation when spaced a certain distance apart, then the same particles spaced 22.7 times farther apart were also a solution. This number, called a “scaling factor,” emerged from the mathematics as inexplicably as pi.


10-billionths of a degree above absolute zero - that's pretty cool!

tridim

(45,358 posts)
5. That's the good kind of fuzzy math.
Tue May 27, 2014, 06:35 PM
May 2014

Does this mean that ALL particles are infinite in size?

If that's the case, then echoes of every particle in the Universe are right in front of me at all times.

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