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n2doc

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Fri Dec 19, 2014, 09:30 PM Dec 2014

Scientists have developed a monkey-english translator

By Joshua A. Krisch

There is a mystery on Tiwai Island. A large wildlife sanctuary in Sierra Leone, the island is home to pygmy hippopotamuses, hundreds of bird species and several species of primates, including Campbell’s monkeys. These monkeys communicate via an advanced language that primatologists and linguists have been studying for decades. Over time, experts nearly cracked the code behind monkey vocabulary.

And then came krak. In the Ivory Coast’s Tai Forest Campbell’s monkeys (Cercopithecus campbelli) use the term krak to indicate that a leopard is nearby and the term hok to warn of an eagle circling overheard. Primatologists indexed their monkey lexicon accordingly. But on Tiwai Island they found that those same monkeys used krak as a general alarm call—one that, occasionally, even referred to eagles.

“Why on Earth were they producing krak when they heard an eagle,” asks co-author Philippe Schlenker, a linguist at France’s National Center for Scientific Research and professor at New York University. “For some reason krak, which is a leopard in the Tai Forest, seems to be recycled as a general alarm call on Tiwai Island.”

In a paper published in the November 28 Linguistics and Philosophy Schlenker and his team applied logic and human linguistics to crack the krak code. Their findings imply that some monkey dialects can be just as sophisticated as human language.

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http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/monkey-see-monkey-speak-video/

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Scientists have developed a monkey-english translator (Original Post) n2doc Dec 2014 OP
Not all communication is language, even if it is sophisticated. eridani Dec 2014 #1
chimps have been taught sign language Hari Seldon Dec 2014 #2
"The only occasions in which Nim produced combinations of signs were imitations of signs-- eridani Dec 2014 #3

eridani

(51,907 posts)
1. Not all communication is language, even if it is sophisticated.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 10:32 PM
Dec 2014

The fundamental characteristic of language is grammar. There is not the slightest hint of grammar in these utterances. However, what the monkeys are doing might be the basis of a pidgin--that is, a proto-language consisting of words in languages shared by two or more populations with different languages who have a need to communicate. Pigins are almost completely stripped of grammar. If children in the prime language acquisition years hear a pidgin as their first language, they impose a generic human grammar on it and the pidgin evolves into a creole. Creoles may then accumulate more history and differentiation to become languages.

eridani

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3. "The only occasions in which Nim produced combinations of signs were imitations of signs--
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 03:45 AM
Dec 2014

--previously produced by his trainers." I don't think that even the basic elements of grammar are present in any of these cases. Using symbols for objects, emotions and actions is a start, but I don't think it's language.

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