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Eugene

(61,865 posts)
Wed May 6, 2015, 11:29 AM May 2015

Oldest known galaxy captured on camera

Source: BBC

Oldest known galaxy captured on camera

2 hours ago

Scientists have captured a photograph of the oldest and most distant galaxy ever measured from Earth.

The speck of blue light is a whole galaxy, potentially containing millions of planets and stars.

It's known as a baby blue galaxy and has been given the nickname EGS-zs8-1.

Light from the galaxy has taken 13.1 billion years to reach Earth, so the photograph is like looking back in time at how the galaxy looked back then.

Experts say that the galaxy formed its stars very very quickly, growing extremely fast - and that it's still producing stars today.

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Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/32609272


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Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
2. I wonder if this will have any effect on the campaigns of Carson & Huckleberry
Wed May 6, 2015, 01:09 PM
May 2015

Amazing stuff. Since it's still generating stars, 13 billion years from now it will still be visible.

xocet

(3,871 posts)
4. Memo: Anything from before 6,000 years ago is a satanic lie just like the fossils....
Wed May 6, 2015, 02:30 PM
May 2015

Here is a report that will have more influence on the Carson/Huckabee contingent:

Rapture Index 181
Net Change unch
Updated May 4, 2015

COMMENTS ON ACTIVE CATEGORIES


03 Satanism
The lack of activity has downgraded this category.
...
08 Oil Supply/Price
The price of oil has dropped so fast, it has the potential to
destabilized various regions (Russia; Middle East).
10 Financial unrest
Financial markets remain oddly stable in the face of
numerous warning signs.
...
14 Supernatural:
There has been an increase in the number of UFO sightings.
15 Moral Standards
A new poll finds that more couples are living together outside
of marriage.
...
19 Globalism:
A secessionist movement in Europe has hurt the globalist agenda.
...
22 Israel
The lack of activity has downgraded this category.
23 Gog (Russia)
Opposition leader Boris Nemtsov is murdered in Moscow.
...
27 Global Turmoil
The level of conflict around the world has declinbed.
...
32 Mark of Beast
The PRISM spying scandal has upgraded this category.
33 Beast Government
Pinellas County, Fla., students are paying for lunch by
waving one hand over a palm scanner.

...
41 Drought:
California will run out of water in one year's time.
42 Plagues
The Ebola Threat is diminishing in West Africa.
43 Climate
There has been a decrease in the level of deadly weather.
...

The Purpose For This Index

The Rapture Index has two functions: one is to factor together a number of related end time components into a cohesive indicator, and the other is to standardize those components to eliminate the wide variance that currently exists with prophecy reporting.

The Rapture Index is by no means meant to predict the rapture, however, the index is designed to measure the type of activity that could act as a precursor to the rapture.

You could say the Rapture index is a Dow Jones Industrial Average of end time activity, but I think it would be better if you viewed it as prophetic speedometer. The higher the number, the faster we're moving towards the occurrence of pre-tribulation rapture.

...

http://www.raptureready.com/rap2.html


So:

Though Satanism, Global Turmoil, Financial Unrest, Israel, Globalism, Climate and Plagues have improved, these changes are being countered by negative activity in Mark of Beast, Drought, Gog, Beast Government, Oil Supply/Price, Moral Standards and Supernatural...to name just a few...

To summarize: They essentially believe that a variant of the movie, "Ghostbusters," is an accurate description of reality. Science cannot touch that. Note how their Climate category conflates climate and weather.

P.S. Visible to humans if they have left Earth. Earth will likely not be very hospitable in 13 billion years...

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
6. Earth will be inhospitable in only a few billion years.
Fri May 8, 2015, 05:26 PM
May 2015

The Sun will run out of hydrogen in about 5 billion years. The Sun will then turn into a red giant, which will swallow up the Earth. Our descendants, if any, will be as different from us as we are from an amoeba, and they will be long gone or long dead by then.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
11. Actually the Earth will be uninhabitable well before that
Sat May 9, 2015, 04:21 PM
May 2015

And I'm not talking about Anthropogenic Global Warming. As the sun evolves over the next billion years it will grow hotter and hotter. With in one billion years only, though the sun will still be burning hydrogen, it will be so hot as to make the oceans boil. We have time to solve this problem. One of the physicists at the University of Michigan has proposed a "move the Earth a higher orbit" scheme which involves gravitationally assist by passing an asteroid just ahead of our planet every 10,000 years or so to deal with this. But since we can't even form a global concensus to deal with CO2 and Methane which is a much much more pressing and much easier problem it seems unlikely that we will survive the 10's of millions of years into the future when this will begin to actually become a problem.

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
12. What will "we" look like in 10 million years?
Sat May 9, 2015, 07:56 PM
May 2015

Over the last few million years, our ancestors evolved increasingly large heads containing larger brains, but smaller and smaller teeth. Females developed larger birth canals to fit the bigger heads of babies. It's reasonable to expect these trends to continue. At some point, surely, our descendants will be so different from us as to constitute a different twig on the tree of life. Homo sapiens will be extinct by then.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
13. It certainly is fun and interesting to speculate
Sat May 9, 2015, 10:14 PM
May 2015

My expectation is that if we survive at all as a species we will start to have smaller brains and become more docile. To put it another way "tame." Our ancestors had to fight to stay alive. We have to be tame and docile to stay alive. And we now have silicon to do our thinking for us so I'm guessing we will begin to stop doing that (thinking that is.) My prediction is that fairly soon we will all be slaves to silicon intelligence of significantly higher thinking levels than our own. What will they think about? - We have absolutely NO idea. Maybe the silicon brains will be obsessed with how many "tame humans" they can enslave at their keyboards.

In a sense the part about becoming slaves to silicon intelligences has already happened. Think of how many first world workers spend their days hunched over a computer terminal working to make silicon brains function in one way or another. Think of how much money and human effort goes into to servicing the Wall Steet gangs need to make "money." But what the hell is that kind of money anyway? Economists would say that money is debt but debt to what for what purpose and to whom? Is it to make larger and more efficient silicon brains already?? I mean when you really think about it - what the hell is it that the Wall Street traders do all day and are so frantic about? It is quite bizzare behavior from several perspectives.

These trends I expect will occur IF we survive at all. I do not think that our survival for even the next 1000 years is a safe bet. And actually the odds on the next 100 are not that great either as we observe several trends reach critical levels.


If we survive, I am not optimistic about the version of ourselves that will move genetically into the future. As Noam Chomsky often says, "We don't know if the instinct for freedom is real." I guess I'm a pessimist but I hope that I am wrong.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
9. No there is a percentage (though small) of Lithium
Sat May 9, 2015, 04:10 PM
May 2015

Also there was a quick and dirty generation of superbigstars (I don't know their astronomical name maybe ultrastars would be an apt name!) These "ultrstars" burned out and exploded as supernovas even before galaxy formation began so there would be some more heavies around though it would be very interesting to know how much.

If life on planets orbiting the stars in the baby galaxies developed (because there were just enough heavy elements to support it) at this point and survived to intelligence and even Type I* and Type II civilizations, they would be VERY advanced by now. To us they would appear as "Gods". Since we have never meet such beings (that we are sure of at least) then perhaps they do not exist.

*

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
5. Wait a minute !!
Fri May 8, 2015, 03:05 PM
May 2015

How do they know it's still producing stars "today" when
they cannot see or detect anything from it that is less than
13.1 billion years old?

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
10. They don't
Sat May 9, 2015, 04:17 PM
May 2015

but we can infer that their are stars. In fact it is likely we are looking at a protogalaxy similar to the way galaxies were in our own region of space 13.1 billion years ago.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
8. age of the universe 13.82 billion years
Sat May 9, 2015, 09:40 AM
May 2015

galaxy is 13.1 billion years old

Age of Universe according to Vedas
311.04 trillion years
How ancient Indians (or Vedic people, more precisely) come up with these numbers, I dont have a clue.




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