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40,000-year-old bracelet made by extinct human species found
By Stephen Morgan May 8, 2015 in Science .
In what is quite an amazing discovery, scientists have confirmed that a bracelet found in Siberia is 40,000 years old. This makes it the oldest piece of jewelry ever discovered, and archeologists have been taken aback by the level of its sophistication.
The bracelet was discovered in a site called the Denisova Cave in Siberia, close to Russia's border with China and Mongolia. It was found next to the bones of extinct animals, such as the wooly mammoth, and other artifacts dating back 125,000 years.
The cave is named after the Denisovan people a mysterious species of hominins from the Homo genus, who are genetically different from both Homo sapiens and Neanderthals.
We know that the Denisovans migrated out of Africa sometime after the first wave of Homo erectus, and well before us, Homo sapiens.
The Denisovans were unique in many ways, having branched away from other humanoid ancestors some 1 million years ago. Indeed, the recent discovery of a female Denisovan finger bone and various teeth shows that they had no morphological similarities to either Neanderthals or modern humans.
Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/science/40-000-year-old-bracelet-from-extinct-human-species-discovered/article/432798#ixzz3Zre2DBRC
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)DetlefK
(16,423 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)"If Neanderthals went extinct... then why are there still Neanderthals.... like me?"
gordianot
(15,237 posts)DetlefK
(16,423 posts)wolfie001
(2,227 posts)They being repukes.
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)And flat.
Freelancer
(2,107 posts)The evil one will stop at nothing, I tell you.
Heather MC
(8,084 posts)mopinko
(70,077 posts)"All jewellery had a magical meaning for ancient people. Bracelets and neck adornments were to protect people from evil spirits, for instance."
how would they know that?
enlightenment
(8,830 posts)the bracelet (assuming that is what it was) was worn by a Denisovan "princess".
Nice find - weird reporting!
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)enlightenment
(8,830 posts)Freelancer
(2,107 posts)The bracelet was found near a fossilized Saks Fifth Avenue shopping bag.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)That branch of science is very sensitive about how smart they are.
mopinko
(70,077 posts)they do it all the time. if there is a field of science where seeing the past through the lens of the present should seen as a fatal flaw it is this one.
and yet....
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)mopinko
(70,077 posts)right, right. try ancient porn.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)It was just part of life.
mopinko
(70,077 posts)just that naked, voluptuous women are nice to have around. no higher meaning needed.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)zeemike
(18,998 posts)But it is just about as credible as their other explanations of thing I am sure.
It is not anyway science, it is all just constructed story...a story that supports their own theory that history is linear and we are at the top. An ego trip at best.
The truth is that we don't know shit about it.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Ever since Europeans got a sense of history they have been erasing it when they win a war.
It took a fragment of a smashed slab to decipher hieroglyphics.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Every fragment of road was for religious processions and every circle of stones was for prayers.
I like to think this piece of jewelry was a gift.
mopinko
(70,077 posts)was a temple.
yup. stupid.
silverweb
(16,402 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]You know, when certain people carry on about "racial purity," and others about 6000 years and such nonsense. Not only are humans today all interracial to some degree, we're actually an inter-species breed with origins about a million years ago.
Take that, you Genesis thumpers and idiotic racial purists!
shenmue
(38,506 posts)colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)And it will keep doing that. In our lifetime this other human like population has been found. Also - now we know the Neanderthals did not so much die out, we absorbed their DNA by interbreeding. If we have any non African blood we have Neanderthal DNA in us- some homo sapiens back then walked on the wild side.
It's also recently been proven that birds are descendants of dinosaurs.
More changes to come. The past is mysterious and who knows.
I watch some "Ancient Aliens" and a lot of it seems a stretch but some of it not so much.
Sancho
(9,067 posts)I think it proves one thing - the female DNA for jewelry can be found in almost all species on earth.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)they don't even know for sure that it was worn by a female.
Tace
(6,800 posts)Funny how we project ourselves onto things. I remember the TV animal shows from my youth, like Wild Kingdom, that projected all kinds of human motivations on animal behavior in the wild (though I imagine these Denisovians were quite human).
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)Writing in the Novosibirsk magazine, Science First Hand, Dr Derevyanko said: "There were found two fragments of the bracelet of a width of 2.7cm and a thickness of 0.9 cm. The estimated diameter of the find was 7cm. Near one of the cracks was a drilled hole with a diameter of about 0.8 cm."
"Studying them, scientists found out that the speed of rotation of the drill was rather high, fluctuations minimal, and that was there was applied drilling with an implement - technology that is common for more recent times", Dr. Derevyanko told the Siberiantimes.
''The bracelet is stunning - in bright sunlight it reflects the sun rays, at night by the fire it casts a deep shade of green,' said Anatoly Derevyanko, Director of the Institute of Archaeology and Ethnography in Novosibirsk, part of the Siberian Branch of the Russian Academy of Sciences.
Chlorite was not found in the vicinity of the cave and is thought to have come from a distance of at least 200km, showing how valued the material was at the time.
http://siberiantimes.com/science/casestudy/features/f0100-stone-bracelet-is-oldest-ever-found-in-the-world/
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Even the model arm has only three fingers.
I think the Denisovans must have been the space brothers who brought bowling to Earth.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)what is very curious about this news is that even though the stone has a a relative low Mohs scale it still needed the technology to drill the hole and polish the stone. It is a rather advanced piece for its dating. Its like the figure they found at Gobeki Tepe the 12,ooo year old site that is also advance that has a belt buckle engraved on its figure. We are lacking a big piece in our historical record that was erased during the rapid melting of the ice caps which now have been proven to be done by either a comet or meteor.
The Prometheus theory not with standing is interesting but I'd rather know what happened when we came out of africa 200k years ago and really did nothing and then had a full blown civilization come out of Sumer. That's a lot of time to do stuff
alfredo
(60,071 posts)niyad
(113,257 posts)gordianot
(15,237 posts)A real treasure.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)I emailed the article to my extremely evangelical born again brother. know he'll have a problem with there having been other "species" of humans.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)Strongly enough to buy you a beer, were you in beer range.
Locrian
(4,522 posts)AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)Shadowflash
(1,536 posts)by Satan to fool people.
Duh.