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Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 11:30 PM Oct 2016

Apes can guess what others are thinking - just like humans, study finds

Apes can guess what others are thinking - just like humans, study finds

Research indicates apes are able to predict one another’s beliefs and suggests that other primates have complex inner lives

Hannah Devlin
@hannahdev
Thursday 6 October 2016 14.00 EDT

Apes have a human-like ability to guess what others are thinking, even in cases when someone holds a mistaken belief, according to research that supports the view that other primates can empathise and have complex inner lives.

The findings, in chimpanzees, bonobos and orangutans, are the first to clearly demonstrate that apes can predict another’s beliefs – even when they know that presumption is false.

“This cognitive ability is at the heart of so many human social skills,” said Christopher Krupenye of Duke University. “I think our findings start to suggest that maybe apes have a deeper understanding of each other than we previously thought.”

In a fresh take on a classic psychology experiment, the apes were able to correctly anticipate that someone would look for a hidden item in a specific location, even if the apes knew that the item was no longer there.

More:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/oct/06/apes-can-guess-what-others-are-thinking-just-like-humans

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Apes can guess what others are thinking - just like humans, study finds (Original Post) Judi Lynn Oct 2016 OP
Would make a great debate moderator. JonathanRackham Oct 2016 #1
Perhaps we should begin to feel a bit uncomfortable Big Blue Marble Oct 2016 #2
I've have always thought that. rusty quoin Oct 2016 #3
more than a bit uncomfortable... dhill926 Oct 2016 #4
Absolutely. My first thought, as well. Grotesque people doing monstrous things to innocents. Judi Lynn Oct 2016 #5
Agreed. n/t complain jane Oct 2016 #9
K & R awoke_in_2003 Oct 2016 #6
Apes share cognitive ability of humans' to recognise perspective of others Judi Lynn Oct 2016 #7
Literally slapstick comedy. hunter Oct 2016 #8

Big Blue Marble

(5,066 posts)
2. Perhaps we should begin to feel a bit uncomfortable
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 12:48 AM
Oct 2016

with ourselves for confining these animals in zoos and torturing them in labs. How much
suffering have we caused?

Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
5. Absolutely. My first thought, as well. Grotesque people doing monstrous things to innocents.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 02:15 AM
Oct 2016

It's a very old story, so damned sad. Beyond forgiveness.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
6. K & R
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 02:21 AM
Oct 2016

Not surprising, especially if you have ever spent time observing apes. They are remarkably like us.

Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
7. Apes share cognitive ability of humans' to recognise perspective of others
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:52 AM
Oct 2016

Apes share cognitive ability of humans' to recognise perspective of others

Updated about 9 hours ago



Scientists using homemade videos featuring a person in a King Kong costume have documented a remarkable cognitive skill shared by chimpanzees, bonobos and orangutans: the human-like ability to recognise when someone else's beliefs are wrong.

The research demonstrated that these great apes — humankind's closest-living evolutionary cousins — possess a capability thought until now to have been the exclusive domain of people, the scientists said.

As individual apes were shown videos featuring a human actor and a costumed ape-like King Kong character, researchers tracked their eye movements.

In the video, the ape watches King Kong hide an object in one of two boxes.

When the person leaves, King Kong moves the object to a new location.

When the person returns to find the object, the apes looked intently at the original spot in anticipation of the person searching there.

Even though the apes knew the object had been moved, they understood that the human thought it was still there, said study co-leader Fumihiro Kano, a comparative psychologist Kyoto University in Japan.

More:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-07/apes-can-recognise-when-somone-elses-beilefs-are-wrong/7912064

hunter

(38,310 posts)
8. Literally slapstick comedy.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 01:00 PM
Oct 2016

Do the apes think it's funny when the guy in the gorilla suit outwits the guy with the stick?

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