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Related: About this forumAstronaut Scott Kelly on the devastating effects of a year in space
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/north-america/astronaut-scott-kelly-on-the-devastating-effects-of-a-year-in-space-20170922-gyn9iw.htmlManned mission to Mars looks like a pretty bad idea.
progressoid
(49,978 posts)I can't imagine what would happen if I subjected my body to 520 days in space too.
Duppers
(28,118 posts)For years.
Traveling to Mars it's not such a good idea. Not as glamorous or popular with the public but sending bots makes much more sense, for the health of the astronauts and financially. A former astronaut, Leland Melvin, is a friend of ours, btw.
(NASA's budget does not include enough funding for all its current programs.)
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)are going to need an escape plan from Earth by 2100
Javaman
(62,517 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)It's 1/3 earth gravity, so you could probably live there quite happily for a long time. Transitioning back would be difficult. The trip will likely need to be under spin to simulate gravity based on what we've learned so far.
LudwigPastorius
(9,136 posts)by cosmic rays and solar radiation.
A large solar flare during a manned Mars mission would be a very bad thing that might make the problem of physical atrophy a moot point.
gordianot
(15,237 posts)Think Werner Von Braun and rotating space station. To bad you wreck someones health to prove a concept that you can not do it cheap.
Javaman
(62,517 posts)centrifugal artificial gravity is the only way.
I had read about an idea of a pendulum type of counter weight idea years ago.
rather than having an "2001" type donut; you have a compartment on one end and a counter weight on the other. simpler and cheaper.
elleng
(130,864 posts)ffr
(22,669 posts)my vestibular system trying to read just to Earth's gravity.
I can't locate the other one at the moment, but thought while reading, did anyone review this before it was posted? Doesn't seem so. The point though, is that he may also not be thinking clearly 48 hours after returning to Earth.
gordianot
(15,237 posts)They seem to be permanent as is playing professional football.
ffr
(22,669 posts)I agree. We're centuries from understanding and overcoming life away from our own planet, where we evolved to our environment.
Problem is, humans are consuming too much and continue to overpopulate, pollute and destroy the habitat that sustains all life. We don't have centuries for all of us to figure this out. Certainly not with Dotards running things.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)So what if we send a few handfuls of our (currently) 7+billion to another planet ... will that stop the population problem here?
Or are you thinking that once we get the process perfected we'll send a couple billion off-planet -- think of the expense, not just in money but energy and resources.
Never going to happen. Not in (literally) a thousand years.
Exploration is just to understand the universe around us. It will never help with overcrowding. Not even a little.
The only point in that regard is that if something catastrophic happens to earth, there will still be human DNA propagating its way around the solar system.
Is that even important?
ffr
(22,669 posts)Things will come to a dramatic and bad outcome here on this planet for us over the next two decades. We're already seeing stresses all over the planet. We've farmed everything out to the maximum, we've GMO'ed all of our crops to maximize crop yields, and still have no way to keep up with resource demands of our every growing population of 7.57 billion.
Fresh water resources are dwindling, we're heating up our global atmosphere, which is having negative impacts on crops and other life forms in the food chain. But we're not addressing the problem of overpopulation.
http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
Human kind, as we know it and as our mindset is going along now, does not have centuries to figure things out.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)I've responded to numerous "We'll be saved when we can colonize" threads and just figured this was another such case.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)But our creations are.