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Judi Lynn

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Thu May 14, 2020, 09:49 PM May 2020

First animal 'buckyballs' discovered in 80-million-year-old sea lillies


By Mindy Weisberger - Senior Writer 10 hours ago

This odd shape was previously only seen in nature at the molecular scale



Reconstruction of the Cretaceous marine animal Marsupites testudinarius.
(Image: © J. Hoyal Cuthill)

Weird, multisided geometric shapes called buckyballs have been discovered in an unexpected place: marine animals that lived 80 million years ago.

Microscopic forms of buckyballs have been found in molecules within cosmic dust, in gases and in some types of rocks. But researchers were surprised to find them at a much larger scale in fossils of two species of Cretaceous crinoids, which are relatives of modern starfish and sea urchins. The plates on the crinoids' bodies created multifaceted, hollow structures that the scientists identified as buckyballs.

Their discovery is the first evidence that the bizarre buckyball shape occurs naturally at such a large scale, the scientists reported in a new study.

Buckyballs, short for "Buckminsterfullerenes," are large spherical molecules, that are made up of 60 carbon atoms linked together in pentagons and hexagons, forming a surface like that of a soccer ball. These strange molecules, first discovered in space in 2010, got their name from architect Buckminster Fuller, who popularized a similar structure in the 1940s called a geodesic dome.

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First animal 'buckyballs' discovered in 80-million-year-old sea lillies (Original Post) Judi Lynn May 2020 OP
Fullerenes were discovered in 1985, and not 2010. Richard Smalley... NNadir May 2020 #1
Wow. I wouldn't have known. Thank you, so much. n/t Judi Lynn May 2020 #2
You're welcome. I think the journalist made a grammatical error that's easy to make. NNadir May 2020 #3

NNadir

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1. Fullerenes were discovered in 1985, and not 2010. Richard Smalley...
Fri May 15, 2020, 07:24 AM
May 2020

...who shared the Nobel Prize for the discovery with Robert Curl and Harold Kroto in 1996 for the discovery, died in 2005.

They were not first discovered in space. They were first discovered in a laboratory, in soot, at Rice University in Texas.

NNadir

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3. You're welcome. I think the journalist made a grammatical error that's easy to make.
Sat May 16, 2020, 09:24 AM
May 2020

I often catch myself making this error of a "misplaced modifier," especially when writing quickly.

She wrote:

These strange molecules, first discovered in space in 2010, got their name from architect Buckminster Fuller, who popularized a similar structure in the 1940s called a geodesic dome.



A better version would simply delete reference to discovery - which is essentially irrelevant to the article's point- and read:

These strange molecules, got their name from architect Buckminster Fuller, who popularized a similar structure in the 1940s called a geodesic dome.


If she wished to add the interesting detail about discovery in space, she might have written an additional sentence:

These molecules, first discovered on Earth in 1985, were found to exist in space in 2010.


I once knew a professor at UCLA whose students had spent huge efforts to synthesize these molecules via a complex series of cycloadditions, only to find out that the molecules occured naturally. The Nobel was based not on synthesis, but rather on discovery in nature. Nevertheless, the synthetic approaches were valuable, since many of the intermediates are of interest.

Despite making many grammatical errors in writing myself, I am a grammar Nazi.
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