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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 10:36 AM Aug 2012

New Zapotec Pyramid Found With Vivid Murals, Stacked Tombs


"No Humans Here"
Photograph courtesy Héctor Montaño, INAH

One of three stacked tombs newly discovered within a pyramid, this vividly painted chamber is unique among ancient Zapotec funerary architecture, Mexican archaeologists announced in late July.

Dating from about A.D. 650 to 850, the funerary complex was part of an elite neighborhood of the Zapotec, an agrarian culture that once thrived throughout what's now the southern Mexican state of Oaxaca (map).

"Painted motifs in funerary contexts are quite usual in this culture," excavation director Nelly Robles García said. "But at other sites they show important people: priests, warriors, and rulers—most likely the deceased."

No humans appear here. Instead, the designs seem to refer to the sacred ritual ball game played by many pre-Hispanic peoples in Mesoamerica. A bit like soccer combined with basketball, the game involved hitting a hard rubber ball around a court, and sometimes ended in sacrificial death for the losers.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/08/pictures/120809-pyramid-zapotec-murals-science-mexico-tombs/
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New Zapotec Pyramid Found With Vivid Murals, Stacked Tombs (Original Post) n2doc Aug 2012 OP
Beautiful stuff Broderick Aug 2012 #1
Thanks n2doc. That was a wonderful excursion BlueToTheBone Aug 2012 #2
I thought that the winners were the ones flamingdem Aug 2012 #3
I had a Mayan guide when I visited the ruins at Chizen Itza av8rdave Aug 2012 #4
You had a good guide.. a la izquierda Aug 2012 #7
Is this a good guide? Shankapotomus Aug 2012 #9
He was fascinating av8rdave Aug 2012 #10
Don't believe anything that people today tell you about the past. Coyotl Aug 2012 #12
My understanding is that the outcomes of the games were taken as omens starroute Aug 2012 #13
That was pretty much what the guide told me av8rdave Aug 2012 #14
Perverse? a la izquierda Aug 2012 #6
Sounds like my cousin. He wants to be buried in a green and gold coffin wearing a Packers jersey. Scuba Aug 2012 #5
Thanks for posting a la izquierda Aug 2012 #8
k&r n/t RainDog Aug 2012 #11

BlueToTheBone

(3,747 posts)
2. Thanks n2doc. That was a wonderful excursion
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 11:07 AM
Aug 2012

into prehistory. I loved the pic of the child folded back into the womb of the earth.

What vivid colors in the tombs too.

av8rdave

(10,573 posts)
4. I had a Mayan guide when I visited the ruins at Chizen Itza
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 02:09 PM
Aug 2012

He said sacrifices didn't always occur. When they did, it could be the winners or the losers, depending on what the religious order determined was the significance of the game.

av8rdave

(10,573 posts)
10. He was fascinating
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 08:30 AM
Aug 2012

Had several stories passed down through many, many generations of his family.

He spent a good part of the afternoon with us.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
12. Don't believe anything that people today tell you about the past.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 11:51 PM
Aug 2012

There just is no way they can imagine how far we have devolved

starroute

(12,977 posts)
13. My understanding is that the outcomes of the games were taken as omens
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 11:48 AM
Aug 2012

Kind of like people believing that the Superbowl predicts what the stock market will do in the coming year or the outcome of the next president election -- except that they were a lot more serious about it.

av8rdave

(10,573 posts)
14. That was pretty much what the guide told me
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 06:39 PM
Aug 2012

He did say that the "omens" had to be interpreted by the powers that be as to their meaning and significance, which is why which team was sacrificed (if there was to be one at all) varied.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
5. Sounds like my cousin. He wants to be buried in a green and gold coffin wearing a Packers jersey.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 06:38 AM
Aug 2012

Apparently sport has been an opiate for the masses for a long time.

a la izquierda

(11,791 posts)
8. Thanks for posting
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 07:11 AM
Aug 2012

The Zapotecs and their Mixtec neighbora often get rhe shorter end of the archaeological stick in favor of the more popular Aztecs and Mayas.

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