So whatever happened to...

[onager]

...that exciting new Religion & Spirituality group where all the various believers were going to meet and discuss stuff? Without us uppity non-believers barging in to spoil the party?

Scanning the "Religion & Spirituality" list, I still don't see it. Not that I plan to disrupt, Non-Existent Heaven forbid. But I figure just reading it would be fun. In the same way that reading about who's the best astrologer or the Mostest Real Psychic is fun, in the other...enthusiast groups.

I know 10 star members from this group voted to create it. But that was months ago.

I'd ask this in the Religion group, but figure I would just get a lot of obfuscation, weak excuses and mumbo-jumbo.

Any spies who want to chime in, feel free. Assuming you're not already blocked from posting in here.

[Rob H.]

1. That's a great question

I know there were some A/A members who voted for it because for whatever reason there seemed to have been a perception in the Religion group that creating a new group was difficult to do, and it seems to have since been dropped. (I would have voted for it, myself, but I'm not a star member any more.) Weird.

[rexcat]

2. Maybe...

they are praying for a miracle.

Speaking of some who can't post here, what happened to Rug, he has not posted since August 2 in the religion forum. Curiosity more than anything else.

On edit: he is back

[Goblinmonger]

3. I was pretty sure it would never move forward

but when they do decide to complain about it in Religion again, we have a thread kept for posterity where 10 atheists with stars supported them having it. All they needed to do was move with it.

[skepticscott]

4. None of the people who claimed to want it

really did. Having it would have exposed the fact that they really had nothing substantial to discuss amongst themselves, and put the lie to their claims that the mean ol' atheists were spoiling all of the "deep" and "meaningful" discussions about faith and theology that they kept wanting to have.

Claiming to lack a place to themselves was just another way for some of the "liberal" and "progressive" believers here to play victim (again). The arguments that Christian Liberals and Progressive People of Faith was an exclusionary group were simply laughable.

[onager]

5. Thanks everybody. I was just wondering.

That whole thing played out the way I expected.

A bluff was made, called, then flushed down the Memory Hole. Which sounds exactly like a lot of the threads in Religion, but I digress.

When all the demands for such a group were flying, I distinctly remember some posts like this:

"We need a group where a Xian can ask a Sikh about their beliefs, where a Catholic can respectfully talk to a Jew, yadda-yadda-yadda...without these mouthy non-believers barging in to tell us we believe in fairy tales."

(I'm too lazy to go hunting, but if PROOF!1! is demanded, I can go and find them.)

Well, they already HAVE that group - it's called "Religion."

I see various believers having yak-fests in there all the time without non-believers barging in. At least until the first post about "fundamentalist atheists" or the like, then the fun begins. But that's an invitation for us to join in, I'd think.

Also, I very rarely see Sikhs, Muslims, Jews, Hindus or atheists/agnostics complaining about the Religion group.

As skepticscott noted above: Claiming to lack a place to themselves was just another way for some of the "liberal" and "progressive" believers here to play victim (again).

What a surprise! That would be exactly the same people who were promising a New World Order in the Religion group not so long ago. Once they got rid of a few "malcontents," i.e., non-believers. (Check Meta for that discussion.)

[mr blur]

6. +1

[mr blur]

7. I guess it's just easier - and safer

to post stuff in which you can condemn atheists than it is to actually examine the things you claim to believe in.

[trotsky]

8. Look over there!

Some atheists are photocopying absurd/disgusting bible verses and ripping them up to demonstrate how inappropriate they are!

Tsk, tsk, they're just as bad as religious nuts who murder people or rape children!