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So quite predictably, it is open season on atheists in GD right now. (Original Post) Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 OP
Yes, I've noticed that, too. sadbear Jan 2013 #1
The trick is to do the one post Warpy Jan 2013 #11
That's where I have my fun Gore1FL Jan 2013 #17
Gore1FL, that was a thing of beauty! kurtzapril4 Jan 2013 #22
Unbelievable FiveGoodMen Jan 2013 #23
That one 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #24
Only with a side of Fava beans temporary311 Jan 2013 #25
I prefer grass fed. nt awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #26
Thanks! BillE Jan 2013 #27
Right now? Fumesucker Jan 2013 #2
I know! If we would only sit down and shut up, all would be great in the world. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #3
No freaking kidding. LisaLynne Jan 2013 #4
I noticed it, too. It just goes to show Mr.Bill Jan 2013 #5
Yeah... no discussion should be allowed kdmorris Jan 2013 #6
Isn't it always? mr blur Jan 2013 #7
Don't forget! AlbertCat Jan 2013 #8
Let them opine ... Auggie Jan 2013 #9
And apparently, at least some of us are paid right-wing shills Rob H. Jan 2013 #10
So happy to find this haven amuse bouche Jan 2013 #12
What if they said to: uriel1972 Jan 2013 #13
We had this re gays over that asshole homophobe at the 2009 inauguration. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #14
I don't remember that one uriel1972 Jan 2013 #15
It was Rick Warren Rob H. Jan 2013 #16
I remember all too well... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #18
But ... but ... Tradition!!! Arugula Latte Jan 2013 #19
The "tradition" thing was what got me. LisaLynne Jan 2013 #20
This is OT, but... Rob H. Jan 2013 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author mlauer59295 Jan 2013 #28
Look on the bright side, you grumps... onager Jan 2013 #29
Atheists, Feminists, Pacifists...it's hippy punching time in GD Taverner Jan 2013 #30
As I have heard uriel1972 Jan 2013 #31
If only "Democratic" equaled "Progressive"! FiveGoodMen Jan 2013 #32
Sorry to hear you've had trouble. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #33
Hey, Joe! You have some unanswered questions in your OP that you posted. Are you going to answer? cleanhippie Feb 2013 #34
And you're asking me this on this thread, why, exactly? AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #35
I thought why was clear in my post above. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #36
So are you going to return to your OP and give responses to those waiting? cleanhippie Feb 2013 #37
I welcome it! What better way to spread the message of real hope? nt Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #38

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
1. Yes, I've noticed that, too.
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:54 PM
Jan 2013

I'm trying participate in thoughtful conversations, but getting piled on in all directions and shut down.

Warpy

(111,141 posts)
11. The trick is to do the one post
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 06:32 PM
Jan 2013

and then walk away. Don't get sucked in to the crazy parade that will always ensue.

Remember, this stuff is not rational. You can't expect people to be rational about it.

kurtzapril4

(1,353 posts)
22. Gore1FL, that was a thing of beauty!
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:21 PM
Jan 2013

Last edited Fri Jan 25, 2013, 02:23 PM - Edit history (1)

Congratulations on your fine arguing skills!

Edited to add: That was some master......baiting.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
23. Unbelievable
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:31 PM
Jan 2013

It's good that you find that entertaining.

I'd have beaten my computer to death in effigy after a few of that guy's comments.

BillE

(137 posts)
27. Thanks!
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:42 AM
Jan 2013

I missed a lot of interesting comments after I left. I guess someone commenting that the bible was "Bullshit" really ruffled some feathers.

Mr.Bill

(24,238 posts)
5. I noticed it, too. It just goes to show
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:05 PM
Jan 2013

that freedom of religion is important, because some people obviously need it to survive. I just shake my head and move on. You can't change their minds.

One thing I do when they accuse us of forcing Atheism on them is remind them that no Atheist ever knocked on their door to try to convert them.

kdmorris

(5,649 posts)
6. Yeah... no discussion should be allowed
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:30 PM
Jan 2013

Because, you know, sitting down and shutting up has historically changed the world so much.

 

mr blur

(7,753 posts)
7. Isn't it always?
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:52 PM
Jan 2013

Figures - nobody likes an "anti-theist nutter".

Anyway, if Obama's a man of great faith then he's allowed to ignore your Constitution. Isn't that how it works?
Unless it's Islam, of course.

Rob H.

(5,349 posts)
10. And apparently, at least some of us are paid right-wing shills
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 06:22 PM
Jan 2013

Last edited Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:07 AM - Edit history (1)

If that's true, I wonder who's been getting my checks for the last 9 years 'cause that MFer owes me some serious money.

Edit: sorry, right-wing trolls, not shills. I thought we couldn't call individuals trolls, but apparently calling entire groups of people trolls is A-OK. Charming.

amuse bouche

(3,657 posts)
12. So happy to find this haven
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 08:24 PM
Jan 2013

Wow anyone critical of all the religion at the inaugural is a troll, bullied and threatened

Doncha know, you will be getting a pizza delivery. Hard to believe but I think Huffington is more tolerant. The worse thing that happens there is your post is deleted

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
13. What if they said to:
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 08:34 PM
Jan 2013

Jews, Muslims, Hindus etc. "Sit down and shut up it's a Christian country."

Or

Gays, "Sit down and shut up it's a straight country."

Or

People of colour, "Sit down and shut up it's a white country."

But,
"Sit down and shut up it's a believing country." Is just dandy.

"Whining" to remove any doubt that atheists have legitimate complaints and the right to complain.

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
15. I don't remember that one
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 08:46 PM
Jan 2013

but I do remember the one they had for a campaign event "Gays are killing our children."
That hurt a lot. It really was the tipping point of my feelings towards Obama. He has clawed some ground back, but I remember.

Rob H.

(5,349 posts)
16. It was Rick Warren
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 09:09 PM
Jan 2013

I can't count the number of posts I saw that were variations on, "OMG, SHUT UP, IT'S JUST ONE PRAYER!" as if that somehow made it okay that the guy's a huge homophobe. He also wrote a completely dickish Tweet when Christopher Hitchens died but that was more recent (2011). Warren is basically Jerry Falwell with more benign packaging, which few people seemed to get.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
18. I remember all too well...
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 03:21 AM
Jan 2013

of course, this year was better because we had a more tolerant believer in bullshit.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
19. But ... but ... Tradition!!!
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 04:17 PM
Jan 2013

Also, how dare you even discuss this on a liberal discussion board?!

Also, shut the fuck up -- you're militant to even bring it up!

Also, you're whining!

Also, you're not in the majority, so, let me reiterate -- shut the fuck up!

Got that?!

LisaLynne

(14,554 posts)
20. The "tradition" thing was what got me.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:12 AM
Jan 2013

Yes, because doing something because of "tradition" is ok. Because what has been done in the past is always the best way to do something.

Rob H.

(5,349 posts)
21. This is OT, but...
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:33 PM
Jan 2013

Last edited Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:25 PM - Edit history (1)

I just wanted to say thanks to you (and everyone else who did the same) for wading into all that over there and standing up for people who had a problem with it. What a lot of people don't seem to realize is that the First Amendment that gives them the right to believe (or not believe) in whatever way they choose is the same First Amendment that gives other people the right to say that they think those beliefs are weird/silly/not supported by evidence. But say something as mild as, "Wow, there was a lot of religion in the inauguration and it made me feel excluded," and you get to stand back and watch people's heads explode.

Maybe they'll have settled down by next election cycle, but it seems we're supposed to go back under the bus 'til then.

Response to Warren Stupidity (Original post)

onager

(9,356 posts)
29. Look on the bright side, you grumps...
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:59 PM
Jan 2013

At least we atheists didn't cost the Democrats the election. We'd never hear the end of that.



Sometimes I just slay myself. And no, you, wise-ass in the back row, that's not a promise.

The idea that a few non-believers on an Internet yak-board could influence the election in...oh, just about any way...always tickles the Rick Warren out of me.

I still can't believe they fling that one at us every 4 years. Usually when the Freedom From Religion Foundation commits some atrocity, like actually standing up for the First Amendment instead of playing Internet Constitutional Lawyer on places like DU.

To partly explain my absence, I've been searching out places more like the old DU. You know, where conversations aren't hijacked by some thin-skinned professional grudge-holder who is still pissed that they never got to be Hall Monitor in junior high.

And get off my lawn...

(I still visit Religion pretty often, but strictly for the lulz, as the kids say nowadays.)

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
30. Atheists, Feminists, Pacifists...it's hippy punching time in GD
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 04:20 PM
Jan 2013

Funny how many REGRESSIVES there are on a PROGRESSIVE board!

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
32. If only "Democratic" equaled "Progressive"!
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 05:03 PM
Jan 2013

We'd be living in a much better world.

In fact, now that I think about it, I always thought that the Democrats were the progressive party.

Otherwise, what good are they?

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
33. Sorry to hear you've had trouble.
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 03:43 PM
Feb 2013

I'm not exactly a big fan of atheism myself, but nobody deserves to be attacked simply for their beliefs.

Here.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
35. And you're asking me this on this thread, why, exactly?
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:43 PM
Feb 2013

Not looking for a fight, so don't bother me here, please. Keep it on the other thread.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
36. I thought why was clear in my post above.
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 10:20 PM
Feb 2013



Not looking for a fight either. Saw you posted here on a thread that had been dead for weeks and had not posted there, where people were awaiting responses. Seemed odd that you would do that, which is why I asked.
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