Atheists & Agnostics
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(12,143 posts)That is spot on!
Thanks for posting it.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)stuntcat
(12,022 posts)Oh well we can still leave that to religions! :peace:
EvolveOrConvolve
(6,452 posts)...posters in the Religion group perfectly.
Quartermass
(457 posts)MarkCharles
(2,261 posts)aka-chmeee
(1,129 posts)rexcat
(3,622 posts)sakabatou
(42,070 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)PassingFair
(22,434 posts)I'd love to see the responses in R/T.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)iverglas
(38,549 posts)Haven't seen the outcome yet. My comments are signed.
Could I just point out that the cartoon is easily generalizable and there may be some reading who identify with the poor atheist in the cartoon (I do, as a member of the group -- not so much as an individual, since being Canadian I never run into this kind of thing in real life) who might do well to consider that.
As a feminist, I have lived that scenario for, oh, over four decades now ... and continue to live it at DU regularly. Why, just yesterday, I was being called (directly or as a member of the group) an hysteric, a pearl-clutcher, a Puritan, a prude, gripped by frothy rage, an advocate of censorship, blah de blah de blah. None of it true, all of it noise to drown out dissent and prevent discourse.
What's sauce for the atheist is sauce for the feminist, the activists for LGBT rights, the activist for the rights of people of colour and other minorities ... hell, the gun control advocate ...
PassingFair
(22,434 posts)What was the complaint?
iverglas
(38,549 posts)And really, it kinda was. And my second thoughts were along the lines of juror #6, but on balance I think the alert kinda made the point in the cartoon.
The Religion group doesn't seem to be designed as a safe haven for the religious, from what I can tell.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS:
Flame bait and has no substance
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Jan 8, 2012, 03:05 PM, and the Jury voted 1-5 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I couldn't have said it better myself; in fact, replace "atheist" with "feminist" and it's exactly what happened to me yesterday right here at DU. As some are fond of saying: truth hurts? (No one in particular is attacked here, and the fact is that this is exactly how things often go - if not at DU, certainly in real life.) - iverglas
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: The message is spot-on. Flame bait and has no substance? - FAIL
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Alerting on a stinkin' cartoon? Get a life, any life.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT and said: The small groups are supposed to be places of refuge. This seems to violate that concept. I vote to hide it on that basis. The cartoon itself is inoffensive if elsewhere, but not in the religion group. The fact it was crossposted tells me there may not have been pure motives in posting it to the Religion Group. (also signed but I'm deleting name)
EvolveOrConvolve
(6,452 posts)He/she says that he/she was not able to see the image and that was the reason for the alert.
PassingFair
(22,434 posts)because he thinks that people should not cross post?
Or something?
The 6th juror seems to think that the Religion/Theology Group
shouldn't have atheist posters in it.
rug
(82,333 posts)The fact that I think it's juvenile doesn't mean I think it should be hidden.
PassingFair
(22,434 posts)laconicsax
(14,860 posts)If it's the latter, why?
rug
(82,333 posts)Do you have a problem with that?
laconicsax
(14,860 posts)You may have noticed that I posted a thread on the subject a while back. You didn't respond, perhaps out of bashfulness, but I'm very interested in hearing your reason.
rug
(82,333 posts)I also subscribe to Wyoming.
EvolveOrConvolve
(6,452 posts)Are you an atheist or agnostic?
rug
(82,333 posts)You know perfectly well I'm neither.
Are you proposing you need to be either to read and post?
EvolveOrConvolve
(6,452 posts)The question was rhetorical, but you knew that, being yourself a master of rhetoric.
There are plenty of believers that would be welcome to post here, because I'd trust that they respect the safe haven nature of the group. Based on your history, I doubt you are one of those.
BTW, the insinuation of communism is nearly enough to get you blocked from this group. If you don't understand why, then this definitely is not the place for you.
rug
(82,333 posts)I suggest I'm the best judge of what's the best place for me.
EvolveOrConvolve
(6,452 posts)...
laconicsax
(14,860 posts)Does it help in your understanding of our perspective?
Does it satisfy a need for gossip?
Is it for entertainment?
I'm genuinely curious here.
rug
(82,333 posts)What I find interesting here is what is important to different known personalities and how they deal with it in the context of atheism. That is a perspective few other sites provide.
laconicsax
(14,860 posts)I nominate you to be the president of the DU Atheist and Agnostic fan club.
rug
(82,333 posts)Living with atheism is as problematic as living with religion. It's more enlightening if you know who the people are.
laconicsax
(14,860 posts)Names on an anonymous forum are rarely the whole story.
rug
(82,333 posts)I know and have known many atheists. Posting about atheism on DU is a highly distilled version.
laconicsax
(14,860 posts)You're not that obsessed with us, are you?
It does break down cardboard stereotypes. You should go to the religious groups.
laconicsax
(14,860 posts)I think the first page on one of them went back a few years.
mr blur
(7,753 posts)Living with atheism isn't a problem at all.
Perhaps it's different in the US, where atheists seem to be vilified and demonised, but I fear this says more about "people of faith" (whichever faith) than atheists.
rug
(82,333 posts)That's how I would know.
laconicsax
(14,860 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)You can make your own callouts.
laconicsax
(14,860 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)deacon_sephiroth
(731 posts)iverglas
(38,549 posts)If an alert is unsuccessful, the alertee isn't notified of the alert or the decision/reasons.
That's why I posted the results of the jury I was on here.
RueVoltaire
(84 posts)Soylent Brice
(8,308 posts)stone space
(6,498 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)There's a name I haven't heard in a while.