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onager

(9,356 posts)
Sun Oct 19, 2014, 06:16 PM Oct 2014

Humanist movie, Muslim characters...

TRIGGER WARNING, PLUCKY KIDS - I normally HATE Plucky Kids in movies. Whenever a movie critic describes a child actor as "irrepressible," I'm generally in favor of repressing the brat immediately. By any means necessary - anything from a ball-gag to extreme rendition by a SEAL team.

Happily, that doesn't apply here.

Movie: Wadjda (2012)

Director: Haifaa Al-Mansour - a Saudi woman who managed to shoot this movie in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. How TF did she DO that? Given the rigid Saudi laws against men and women working together, and women generally doing anything. One reviewer said Al-Mansour directed the movie "from the back of a van."

Storyline: Wadjda is a 10-year-old Saudi girl determined to buy herself a bicycle. And if you thought Cap'n Ahab was relentless going after that whale, wait'll you see this kid scheming to get that bike.

She persists, even though her mother warns: "If you ride a bike, you won't be able to have children!"

Wadjda finally comes up with a way to raise the money - by winning the Koranic recitation contest at school, even though she doesn't know much about the Koran.

She enlists in Koran class, where the teacher's first warning is: "If you've got your period you're not allowed to touch the Koran. Use a tissue."

Telling any more would get me into *SPOILER* territory and I don't want to do that.

As other people have noted, this is a very humanistic movie. Showing that all of us humans tend to have the same sort of wants and motivations, no matter where or under what ideology we happen to be raised in.

IMO, this is also a sneakily feminist movie. It reminds of Leila Ahmed's comments in her book Women and Gender In Islam - that in the Middle East, Western feminism will always be associated with Western imperialism. And whatever form feminism takes in Muslim countries, it will have to be forged by the women living there, not outsiders.

Also check out the first comment at IMdB - from a Saudi woman who saw this movie at the U.S. Embassy in Riyadh. She couldn't see it in a Saudi movie theater because those don't exist - they are considered evil.

ImdB link: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2258858/?ref_=nv_sr_1


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Humanist movie, Muslim characters... (Original Post) onager Oct 2014 OP
movie theaters don't exist in Saudi Arabia... RussBLib Oct 2014 #1
I remember the stink raised when Cartoonist Oct 2014 #2
Bwa-ha-ha! "The Message." Here you go... onager Oct 2014 #3

RussBLib

(9,006 posts)
1. movie theaters don't exist in Saudi Arabia...
Sun Oct 19, 2014, 07:13 PM
Oct 2014

...because they are considered evil.

Yeah, they are right up there, with us, in the modern world. I'm so glad I wasn't born in the Muslim world.

Cartoonist

(7,314 posts)
2. I remember the stink raised when
Sun Oct 19, 2014, 07:31 PM
Oct 2014

someone tried to make a movie about Islam. I think it was sympathetic towards the religion, but the rules against depicting the Prophet were paramount to content.

onager

(9,356 posts)
3. Bwa-ha-ha! "The Message." Here you go...
Sun Oct 19, 2014, 08:15 PM
Oct 2014

A/k/a "Mohammed, Messenger of God." ImdB link below. And I'd be very wary of that high ImdB rating. I think some of the Prophet's fans might have borked the polling.

Generally regarded by neutral viewers as incredibly tedious despite some exciting battle scenes of camel charges etc. Tedious because of what you mention - if you want to make a movie about the origins of Islam, YOU CAN'T SHOW THE FOUNDER!

Starring Hollywood's All-Purpose Ethnic Guy in 1977, Anthony Quinn. He played Mohammed's uncle because they couldn't show Moh...oh, I already mentioned that.

But whenever Mohammed is (always respectfully) mentioned, the camera pans to...his camel stick resting in a corner. Yep, there's the formula for some exciting cinema, right there...

There are rumors that the whole project was an elaborate con. With people raising money to make the movie for years, without really intending to make it at all. Until they realized very bad things might happen to them if they didn't.

And if they did. IIRC, the movie's gala premiere was marred by bomb threats from Islamic fundamentalists.

One of my movie books mentions that the "big con" angle was the plot of a novel written about the project, called "The Marrakesh Two-Step." I can't find any mention of that book at Amazon or anywhere else, so it's probably long out of print. If I ever see it in a used-book store, I'm grabbing it on sight.

Imdb link: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074896/

ETA - yep, there were bomb threats and riots. Wiki link:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad,_Messenger_of_God

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