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beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 05:10 AM Jul 2017

Stephen Fry: A force for good ... or not







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Stephen Fry: A force for good ... or not (Original Post) beam me up scottie Jul 2017 OP
Thank you, Stephen Fry. Hieronymus Jul 2017 #1
Love that guy. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #4
☝ When asked about my atheism Duppers Jul 2017 #5
It's a shame the blasphemy case didn't make it to court. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #6
Yep. 😉 Duppers Jul 2017 #7
Too many institutions (many of them religious) and people with evil deeds.... Raster Jul 2017 #2
Well said! beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #3
Christianity isn't easy cyclonefence Jul 2017 #8

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
6. It's a shame the blasphemy case didn't make it to court.
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 08:55 AM
Jul 2017

Can you imagine what else Stephen would have said if he had the chance?

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
7. Yep. 😉
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 09:33 AM
Jul 2017


But seriously, it was too bad. Some newspapers would've had to print what he had to say. <Gasp>

Raster

(20,998 posts)
2. Too many institutions (many of them religious) and people with evil deeds....
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 06:05 AM
Jul 2017

...at the heart of their vast fortunes and great power, now want to be looked upon as benevolent and caring.

IT. IS. NOT. THAT. EASY.

It's like recovery. First, you admit there was a problem and acknowledge your evil deeds and actions that have harmed others. And then you begin to make right by actively seeking out those you have wronged... NOT glossing over your actions and behaviors, OWNING THEM, apologizing for them, and then making every effort to right those wrongs.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
3. Well said!
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 06:12 AM
Jul 2017

When the organization in question can't even admit they did wrong and still treat women and lgbt people like second class citizens it's hard to take them seriously when they claim to be the world's moral compass. Make that impossible. It's impossible to take them seriously.

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
8. Christianity isn't easy
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 10:06 AM
Jul 2017

One of the reasons I'm an atheist is the impossibility (for me) of believing in the words of Jesus enough to actually act on them (I realize Xianity isn't the only alternative to atheism, but it's how I was brought up). To follow Jesus, we must do exactly what Stephen Fry says the Pope could do to rehabilitate catholicism, and I'm not willing to sell everything I own and give the money to the poor. This is one of the central messages of Jesus, and one people who like to call themselves Christians to a man/woman fail to follow.

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