Atheists & Agnostics

pokerfan

(27,677 posts) Thu Apr 26, 2012, 01:02 AM Apr 2012

E.Tarte--Fr.TJ asks, "What if I'm right and you atheists are wrong?"

Catholic Priest Tries to Use Pascal’s Wager in an Online Debate; An Atheist Politely Destroys Him

April 25, 2012 By Hemant Mehta

Edward Tarte has been having an online debate with a Catholic priest, Father TJ. (Incidentally, Father TJ attended the same seminary Edward went to before he became an atheist.)

The latest point from Father TJ is essentially Pascal’s Wager: “What if I’m right and you atheists are wrong?”

I love Edward’s response because it gets more powerful the longer you listen to it (begin at the 0:39 mark):

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2012/04/25/catholic-priest-tries-to-use-pascals-wager-in-an-online-debate-an-atheist-politely-destroys-him/

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E.Tarte--Fr.TJ asks, "What if I'm right and you atheists are wrong?" (Original Post) pokerfan Apr 2012 OP

Interesting Anarcho-Socialist Apr 2012 #1

First, if I find the cosmos runs via a malevolent naked Santa Claus Warpy Apr 2012 #2

"Well then, I guess you'll spend Eternity on the balcony... BiggJawn Apr 2012 #3

Then I will have wasted my life... WillParkinson Apr 2012 #4

Anarcho-Socialist

(9,601 posts)

1. Interesting

Reply to pokerfan (Original post)

Thu Apr 26, 2012, 08:11 AM

Apr 2012

If one accepts the argument that:

"The existence of the (Christian) god is true, because it cannot be disproved."

Then once must accept the argument that:

"The things which cannot be disproved, exist (and are true)"

Therefore all gods, be they Judeo-Christian, Hindu, Pagan et al must exist - because they cannot be disproved.

Given the exclusivity of Christianity's claims of a single god, it's not an argument that they will get very far with.

Warpy

(111,249 posts)

2. First, if I find the cosmos runs via a malevolent naked Santa Claus

Reply to pokerfan (Original post)

Thu Apr 26, 2012, 11:13 AM

Apr 2012

up in the clouds, I am going to be incredibly disappointed. The greatest mystery and last adventure will end up being farce.

When I regain my composure, that old bugger is going to have one hell of a lot of explaining to do. Anger at his ineptitude won't begin to describe it.

BiggJawn

(23,051 posts)

3. "Well then, I guess you'll spend Eternity on the balcony...

Reply to pokerfan (Original post)

Thu Apr 26, 2012, 10:23 PM

Apr 2012

...laughing at my poor ass roasting in Hell, won't you? After all, 'tis the CHRISTIAN thing to do."

And then he'll be so stoked that he'll run around Heaven naked screaming "I'M A FUCKING RUSSIAN T-34 TANK! BRING ME SOME ALTAR BOYS!"

WillParkinson

(16,862 posts)

4. Then I will have wasted my life...

Reply to pokerfan (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 08:40 PM

Apr 2012

Helping people who need it. Tending to lost and abused animals. Caring for those who had no one to look out for them. And had to do it all without the thought that maybe my reward was waiting for me over the rainbow and had to settle for my reward being a smile on the face of someone who thought they had nothing.

Damn, that would just be awful.

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