"Why I Will Never Vote for Donald Trump" (Peter Wehner)

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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/14/opinion/campaign-stops/why-i-will-never-vote-for-donald-trump.html?smid=fb-nytopinion&smtyp=cur&_r=0

I suppose many Republicans could be like this - that they would not vote for anyone if it came down to Trump vs ?

I think that people underestimate the amount of vitriol that would be directed toward BS if he won the primary. There has not been any real opposition to BS, yet. It does really help Clinton much to oppose him - that mostly works against her.

Hillary has withstood a lot of crap from Republicans. To Republicans, Sanders does not even exist, in any real sense - so they ignore him. They will have to demonize some way if he wins the nomination.

The current poll numbers are based on / include all the crap that has been thrown at Hillary over the years. They do not include what will be thrown at Sanders. Basically - I do not share in the glee of the Sanders group - because we don't know as much about how this could go - as they seem to want to think.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. They'll claim he's the reincarnation of Leon Trotsky

and that he wants to send everybody to collective farms. They'll be red-baiting all day. We know that. But that's all they've got. Bernie is otherwise pretty free of baggage; he's never pretended he was anything but a democratic socialist. But Hillary has enough to fill the cargo hold of a 747. Notwithstanding the Benghazi bullshit, she has never had to confront the full fury of the GOP in a national election. We will see a rehash of 25 years of Clinton "scandals": Vince Foster, Travelgate, Bill's adventures with Monica, etc. Yes, it's mostly lies, but you know that crap will be out there. Bernie doesn't have that kind of baggage. They'll rant about his "socialism" but that's not very juicy and there really isn't anything else. He has a solid reputation of integrity and honesty, which Hillary does not.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

2. He's been pretty effective at countering liars; have you not seen recent news?

Have you noticed that his base (people like me) aren't putting up with these fucking liars? I'm going for the throat of any motherfucker who lies about my candidate, and I'm one of millions.