2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBrand New Ipsos Reid and Morning Consult Nat'l Polls- HRC 55% SBS 36%/ HRC 49%- Sanders 32%
http://polling.reuters.com/#!poll/TR131/type/smallest/filters/PARTY_ID_:1/dates/20150901-20160112/collapsed/false/spotlight/1
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/polls/morning-consult-23500
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)Time to break out the party gear
and then you wake up.
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MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)And welcome to DU Andrickson!
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)They've been 'berned" away by rabid BS supporters on this site. The level of vitriol and hate against Clinton is staggering here.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)The knives are out for you if you don't back a certain person.
I won't name him, maybe that will save me from alert stalkers.....maybe.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)-Defense Lawyer
I guess when the primary gets to heterogeneous Nevada and South Carolina she will be in good shape.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nv/nevada_democratic_presidential_caucus-5337.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/sc/south_carolina_democratic_presidential_primary-4167.html
Always respectfully,
DemocratSinceBirth
Proud plebeian and layperson
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)You probably should have started with those if you wanted to make a meaningful point.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I post the polls at they are they uploaded to the net without prejudice or with as little prejudice as humanly possible.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)National polls, and particularly excitement over national polls is always amusing to me since we don't have a national election. President Obama didn't lead in any national polls in 2008 until February 2. The January 15 Pew poll and the January 22nd NBC/WSJ polls both had Clinton at +15. As late as May there were national polls with Clinton up 7. They are interesting, but they just don't mean a lot.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)oasis
(49,376 posts)That's will be the end of the "revolution" and the beginning of coming together.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)All the scientific polling indicates she peaks after debates...It is only after a people forget how smart she is that her numbers begin to lower and plateau.
oasis
(49,376 posts)on Bernie, the media will take over from there.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)As you said, a "there you go again" zinger will turn back the tide against Bernie.
oasis
(49,376 posts)will be no doubt about who won this time. The gloves will be off.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I supported Hart in 84 and Mondale stung him in 84 with his "where's the beef" retort and it wasn't even true. But it was effective:
oasis
(49,376 posts)It shouldn't take much to get him rattled.
riversedge
(70,186 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)I guess they now like corporate polls, except this one, and the ones showing Hillary still ahead in Iowa.
She has a chance to retake a sizable lead in Iowa during Sunday's debate.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)We are focused on the states as they proceed to vote, can't worry for example about California and New Jersey 5 months from now.
John Poet
(2,510 posts)The national gap is shrinking.
What he needs to erase the rest of the gap are victories in Iowa and New Hampshire, and then we'll see what the national polls say (not that they matter all that much, right?)
book_worm
(15,951 posts)it's all about Iowa and NH if one candidate comes out of those with momentum it could drastically change the national polls.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/sc/south_carolina_democratic_presidential_primary-4167.html
Respectfully, I believe you vastly overestimate the effect winning or losing a state with an extraordinarily homogeneous electorate will have on the states with a more heterogeneous electorate to follow but that's why we let people vote.
I would also add that the last three presidents have lost the New Hampshire primary while the last five presidents have won the South Carolina primary.