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cali

(114,904 posts)
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 03:45 PM Jan 2016

In New Ad, Bernie Sanders Hits Clinton on Wall Street Campaign Donations

Bernie Sanders suggests in a new ad that Hillary Clinton’s practice of taking campaign money from Wall Street undercuts her ability to police these firms, part of a broader argument that casts her as an establishment figure incapable of bringing about the changes needed to shore up middle class families.

In the 30-second ad, “Two Visions,” Mr. Sanders speaks to the camera and says, “There are two Democratic visions for regulating Wall Street. One says it’s OK to take millions from big banks, and then tell them what to do.”

He contrasts that vision with his own plan, which includes breaking up large banks – a step that Mrs. Clinton opposes.

Mr. Sanders doesn’t mention Mrs. Clinton by name. A campaign spokesman, Michael Briggs, said Thursday that the ad isn’t “directed at Secretary Clinton exclusively,” but also at everyone in the “Democratic establishment who believe you can take Wall Street’s money and then somehow turn around and rein in the greed, recklessness and illegal behavior.”

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http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/01/14/in-new-ad-bernie-sanders-hits-clinton-wall-street-campaign-donations/

Here's the ad. I think it's a very good one and in no way can it be characterized as negative.

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In New Ad, Bernie Sanders Hits Clinton on Wall Street Campaign Donations (Original Post) cali Jan 2016 OP
We need a change from the corruption of big money in our politics. rhett o rick Jan 2016 #1
I don't know how he does it. He is so forceful without overwhelming. He is clear and very firm. libdem4life Jan 2016 #2
It is a good ad. Qutzupalotl Jan 2016 #3
+1. It would be good for him to have a "So why should we break up the big banks?" ad. winter is coming Jan 2016 #6
That's important in the GE, not so much in the primary. Agschmid Jan 2016 #10
This will be easily juxtaposed by him being unable R B Garr Jan 2016 #4
Anthing ejbr Jan 2016 #5
Its good silenttigersong Jan 2016 #7
A shot right between the eyes to the corp canadate lastone Jan 2016 #8
K&R CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #9
Bernie goes scorched earth on HRC!!11!1!!! Cassiopeia Jan 2016 #11
Yep. Funny because it's utter bullshit to call it negative cali Jan 2016 #12
That's not scorched earth Bernblu Jan 2016 #23
Of course it is negative dsc Jan 2016 #13
Have you even watched it? It's insane bullshit to claim it's negative cali Jan 2016 #14
negative doesn't mean personal attack nor does it mean lie dsc Jan 2016 #15
That ad wasn't directly strictly at Hillary HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #16
ads that say bad things about a person or group of people are negative dsc Jan 2016 #18
Say bad things or be honest? HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #19
you can say a bad thing and be honest dsc Jan 2016 #20
If taking millions from Wall Street is a bad thing, maybe we shouldn't vote for folks who do it. nt winter is coming Jan 2016 #22
Here's what he said and it proves how batshit cali Jan 2016 #17
It's only negative if you think taking millions from Wall Street is a bad thing shawn703 Jan 2016 #24
If you think this ad is negative, then you must think it is bad for your candidate to mhatrw Jan 2016 #21
 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
2. I don't know how he does it. He is so forceful without overwhelming. He is clear and very firm.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 03:55 PM
Jan 2016

He exudes confidence and trust and that's how he's going to be able to develop "coattails". It's already happening. The biggest news I've read is a D replacement for DWS...Canova, I think it is. Same thing. No Big Money...and that's Florida.

He will show not only that it can be done, but how to do it. A national Mentor.

Great ad. Thanks for sharing it.

Qutzupalotl

(14,300 posts)
3. It is a good ad.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 04:03 PM
Jan 2016

My only gripe is that he doesn't explain here WHY he wants to break up the big banks. It's a scary-sounding proposition for people who don't follow politics or the news closely ("All my money is in the bank!&quot , and don't get that the largest ones pose a systemic threat. WE get it, but we're news junkies.

Maybe what I want is not possible to distill into a 30-second ad.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
6. +1. It would be good for him to have a "So why should we break up the big banks?" ad.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 04:15 PM
Jan 2016

If it won't boil down into a 30-second spot, have a link at the end, or make a second ad. And somewhere in there, the phrase "Gambling with your money" should figure prominently.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
10. That's important in the GE, not so much in the primary.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 06:17 PM
Jan 2016

Most of the people voting in the democratic primary get his point.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
4. This will be easily juxtaposed by him being unable
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 04:13 PM
Jan 2016

to articulate when interviewed HOW he would break up Bank of America. BofA was the example given in the interview, but he said he didn't know. Great applause line, but no follow-through.

 

lastone

(588 posts)
8. A shot right between the eyes to the corp canadate
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 06:15 PM
Jan 2016

and right in time for the debate - this one should be interesting!

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
11. Bernie goes scorched earth on HRC!!11!1!!!
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 06:23 PM
Jan 2016

I'm sure there will be more than a few posts like that tonight.

Excellent ad Bernie.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
13. Of course it is negative
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 06:59 PM
Jan 2016

when you attack your opponent, and he did in that ad, then it is negative.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
14. Have you even watched it? It's insane bullshit to claim it's negative
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 07:03 PM
Jan 2016

Be specific, what does he say that makes it negative campaigning? Personal attack? No. Lies? No.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
15. negative doesn't mean personal attack nor does it mean lie
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 07:07 PM
Jan 2016

it means saying something negative about your opponent. He did even in your description of it. Again, that doesn't make it unfair, nor untrue, nor a personal attack but it is, by any sane definition of the word, a negative ad. It is designed to make people not want to vote for Hillary and instead vote for him.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
16. That ad wasn't directly strictly at Hillary
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 07:10 PM
Jan 2016

It was aimed at the entire political establishment. Hardly a negative ad.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
18. ads that say bad things about a person or group of people are negative
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 07:14 PM
Jan 2016

again, I don't think it is a sin to run a negative ad ( I loved Jon Bel Edwards ad) but we should call things by their names.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
17. Here's what he said and it proves how batshit
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 07:13 PM
Jan 2016

It is to claim it's negative.furthermore, it's all about why to vote for him. Oh, and negative campaigning has a specific meaning. You don get to just rewrite that so it means what you want it to.

One says it’s okay to take millions from big banks and then tell them what to do. My plan: break up the big banks, close the tax loopholes, and make them pay their fair share. Then we can expand health care to all and provide universal college education. Will they like me? No. Will they begin to play by the rules when I’m president? You better believe it.”

shawn703

(2,702 posts)
24. It's only negative if you think taking millions from Wall Street is a bad thing
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 03:13 AM
Jan 2016

Do you think it's a bad thing?

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
21. If you think this ad is negative, then you must think it is bad for your candidate to
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 09:51 PM
Jan 2016

take millions from Wall Street and the big banks.

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