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cali

(114,904 posts)
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 07:24 AM Jan 2016

Bernie Sanders runs nasty attack ad targeting Hillary on Wall Street donations

Ominous music as a still of Hillary laughing with Lloyd Blankfein flashes on the screen. Voice says. "Hillary Clinton has solicited millions of dollars from Wall Street to fund her campaigns and enriched herself personally by millions, giving speeches to bailed out Wall Street firms. How can she claim to be tough on Wall Street when she owes them so much? Clip of Hillary from the Debate: "As Senator from New York, I represented Wall Street."

Oops no. He did no such thing. Lying by Camp Clinton in order to justify and ramp up the negative campaigning they're engaged in.

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Bernie Sanders runs nasty attack ad targeting Hillary on Wall Street donations (Original Post) cali Jan 2016 OP
They sure are reduced to lies. djean111 Jan 2016 #1
The "Fibs" Keep Coming... False Accusations of The First Order... That's Just How She Rolls! CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #23
By falling back on LIES - HIllary has admitted she has Lost Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #38
Not that it would really have been an attack ad: marble falls Jan 2016 #2
I'd watch that ad. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #3
LOL. And grandmothers! CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #8
Mmmmmmmmm Mbrow Jan 2016 #17
LMAO. Nicely done. Vattel Jan 2016 #20
"...who can forget the brave collateralized debt obligations and bundled subprime mortgages..." klook Jan 2016 #21
Hardly an attack when you say there is a difference in the candidates and don't even name names. ViseGrip Jan 2016 #4
when the first benghazi ad runs, or email ad, or Monica Lewinsky, then I'll be disappointed Doctor_J Jan 2016 #5
Exactly. GoneOffShore Jan 2016 #7
No names mentioned but if the shoe fits....... nc4bo Jan 2016 #6
Bingo! SoapBox Jan 2016 #9
Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #10
No, but he should have... paleotn Jan 2016 #11
Because that's the system imposed on us by "conservatives." Cary Jan 2016 #12
Where did they all go? kracer20 Jan 2016 #13
Every time I read "I represented Wall St." bread_and_roses Jan 2016 #14
She thought she was just supposed to represent Wall Street. But she was supposed to represent LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #19
I would be funny if she said "I represented Wall St., yo" Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #28
Now that would be a powerful attack ad, but as you say that is not what he did karynnj Jan 2016 #15
#jamiedimonsabuela Indepatriot Jan 2016 #16
unfortunately I was watching Mbrow Jan 2016 #18
I can't wait until the debate Sunday. HRH is going to try to attack Bernie on guns and healthcare in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #22
And that's what really matters to you, Cary Jan 2016 #25
Well, there's some accuracy in that incredible post.... MADem Jan 2016 #39
A lot of people use ideology as a crutch, very much like religion Cary Jan 2016 #24
Thanks for the info. klook Jan 2016 #27
He was not an economist yet he was the father of "supply-side economics." Cary Jan 2016 #29
Yes, indeed klook Jan 2016 #30
Anti-intellectualism Cary Jan 2016 #32
Could you Please specifically fredamae Jan 2016 #26
Horrors!! The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy attacks agains!! Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #31
The thing that kills me about faux outrage over that ad is that it doesn't say anything negative winter is coming Jan 2016 #33
It also doesn't identify anyone with that school of thought a2liberal Jan 2016 #34
Right! cannabis_flower Jan 2016 #35
I agree with your take on the motives Matariki Jan 2016 #36
I think they should run "As Senator from New York, John Poet Jan 2016 #37
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. They sure are reduced to lies.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 07:27 AM
Jan 2016

And something like that fictitious ad runs through my head any time I think of Hillary. Bernie doesn't need to tell me about that.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
23. The "Fibs" Keep Coming... False Accusations of The First Order... That's Just How She Rolls!
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 10:30 AM
Jan 2016
Speaking the TRUTH is NOT going Negative... Hillary just does not want US to hear who she really is!

What a pathetic example for future Democratic Women Candidates to follow.

Kick And Rec!

marble falls

(57,013 posts)
2. Not that it would really have been an attack ad:
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 08:23 AM
Jan 2016

"Hillary Clinton has solicited millions of dollars from Wall Street to fund her campaigns and enriched herself personally by millions, giving speeches to bailed out Wall Street firms. How can she claim to be tough on Wall Street when she owes them so much? Clip of Hillary from the Debate: "As Senator from New York, I represented Wall Street." is the truth.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
3. I'd watch that ad.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 08:34 AM
Jan 2016

Of course, The response would be an inevitable soft-focus montage of cops holding kittens, firefighters, and hedge fund managers with hats held over their hearts, set to "God Bless America".

Reminding everyone that ties to wall street are as american as apple pie because nineleven, also nineeleven and did we mention nineleleven.... after all who can forget the brave collateralized debt obligations and bundled subprime mortgages packaged as specialized investment offerings with deliberately opaque disclosure requirements, which selflessly ran back into those burning buildings to save lives on that fateful day?

Bernie sanders doesnt WANT to respect those collateralized debt obligations which put themselves in harm's way on nineeleven. Why does Bernie Sanders hate America?

klook

(12,152 posts)
21. "...who can forget the brave collateralized debt obligations and bundled subprime mortgages..."
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 10:22 AM
Jan 2016
DUzy material!

Now watch for some shadowy group to produce this ad "on behalf of" the Sanders campaign.
 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
4. Hardly an attack when you say there is a difference in the candidates and don't even name names.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 08:55 AM
Jan 2016

When is the last time you've listened to an 'attack ad'? Just look at the republican ads, now, and back in 2012, and in 2008 when Hillary went after Obama for hitting her on healthcare.

This is a contest, not for the faint of heart. Bernie has every right to point out real differences.

He said nothing personal, kept it on the issue of Wall Street, one of our biggest problems. We've been had, and I can't support anyone who ignores this issue. This is one of the biggest reasons I support Sanders.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
5. when the first benghazi ad runs, or email ad, or Monica Lewinsky, then I'll be disappointed
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 09:00 AM
Jan 2016

in Sanders. Campaign issues are fair game, regardless of how rough.

Response to cali (Original post)

paleotn

(17,884 posts)
11. No, but he should have...
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 09:57 AM
Jan 2016

HRC's close ties Wall Street does have an impact on how she would govern and is a legitimate campaign issue.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
12. Because that's the system imposed on us by "conservatives."
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 09:59 AM
Jan 2016

They attack unions, successfully, because unions fund Democrats. They successfully lobbied the SOTUS for Citizens United. Their strategy is well documented.

I cannot blame Democrats for doing what they need to do. A former law partner of mine was a U.S. Senator. It takes an amazing amount of money. He didn't need their money and didn't want to spend his time helping them get more.

He lasted one term and was largely ineffective.

kracer20

(199 posts)
13. Where did they all go?
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 10:05 AM
Jan 2016

I admit I had around a dozen or so of the Hillary supporters on ignore, just to make things a bit more peaceful around here, but it seems they have almost disappeared around here. What's up?

bread_and_roses

(6,335 posts)
14. Every time I read "I represented Wall St."
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 10:07 AM
Jan 2016

I wonder what HRC thinks she meant? She was the Senator from New York - she was SUPPOSED to represent the people of New York. It sounds obvious to say so but "Wall St." is not a citizen. "Wall St." is not a person.

LiberalArkie

(15,703 posts)
19. She thought she was just supposed to represent Wall Street. But she was supposed to represent
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 10:17 AM
Jan 2016

the entire state of New York, not just the city of New York City, not just the borough of Manhattan, not just the area of Wall Street.

I guess she forgot.

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
15. Now that would be a powerful attack ad, but as you say that is not what he did
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 10:08 AM
Jan 2016

The strange thing is that her campaign going crazy and CALLING what he did an attack ad does at least negative things:

1) Gives Bernie's ad - and even more the issue - tons of free coverage

2) It makes her look like she is whining -- yet wasn't one of the reasons to vote for her that she is really really tough and has dealt with attacks for decades.

3) The other thing is that, the only negativity that exists in Bernie's ad is what the viewer brings to it. Only if you agree that there was not enough regulations and that HRC is not proposing doing enough - is it even negative at all.

Mbrow

(1,090 posts)
18. unfortunately I was watching
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 10:14 AM
Jan 2016

Fox and friends at the Laundromat, If the HRC bots want to see attack BS just watch that shit.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
22. I can't wait until the debate Sunday. HRH is going to try to attack Bernie on guns and healthcare
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 10:25 AM
Jan 2016

and he'll be ready with both barrels loaded. I hope he chews ger up and spits her out....in his polite, gentlemanly way, that is.

She deserves what's coming her way.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

Cary

(11,746 posts)
25. And that's what really matters to you,
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 10:53 AM
Jan 2016

that she gets what you decided that she deserves.

That explains a lot.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
39. Well, there's some accuracy in that incredible post....
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:15 PM
Jan 2016

And I say "incredible" because that really does take the cake when it comes to getting 'low' with regard to a Dem candidate.

But here's the accurate bit:

She deserves what's coming her way.


What's "coming her way" is nomination at the convention...!!! And yeah, she does deserve it!

Cary

(11,746 posts)
24. A lot of people use ideology as a crutch, very much like religion
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 10:51 AM
Jan 2016

In the meantime what's happening in the real world?

http://www.wsj.com/articles/has-the-government-made-it-too-expensive-to-be-a-big-bank-1452731317

Extremists on the left and right are so caught up in their rhetoric, and their incessant need to hang cherry picked factoids on their conclusions. Radicals need to put the glue away and take in the bigger picture and the longer run.

The powers that brought us this mess do just that. They are working a plan made 50 years ago by a low level Republican operative named Jude Wanniski.

klook

(12,152 posts)
27. Thanks for the info.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 11:54 AM
Jan 2016

I confess I didn't know about Wanniski. Amazing that a Louis Farrakhan supporter came up with the central guiding principle of the modern Republican Party. Curioser and curioser.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
29. He was not an economist yet he was the father of "supply-side economics."
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 01:13 PM
Jan 2016

It's all flim flam and part of a dangerous ideology that must be defeated.

klook

(12,152 posts)
30. Yes, indeed
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 03:27 PM
Jan 2016

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I have a suspicion the origins of the Republican "Two Santa" narrative are not widely known. They certainly do continue to follow the lead of this snake oil salesman. They like to cloak the deception in respectability by attributing it to Milton Friedman and other supposed intellectuals, but reading about the origins makes it clear – in case it wasn't already – that this is a crackpot theory.

And the "Laffer Curve," drawn on a napkin--don't get me started! That's about the level of analysis that Cheney and Rumsfeld put into planning the Iraq invasion.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
26. Could you Please specifically
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 11:52 AM
Jan 2016

point out the difference between a perceived "Attack VS Fact" in this ad?
Thanks.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
33. The thing that kills me about faux outrage over that ad is that it doesn't say anything negative
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 04:39 PM
Jan 2016

about the "take millions from Wall Street and then tell them what to do" vision. All it does is mention that that school of thought exists, which it does. That mentioning its mere existence is "negative" speaks volumes.

a2liberal

(1,524 posts)
34. It also doesn't identify anyone with that school of thought
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 07:38 PM
Jan 2016

It seems like a certain candidate is self-identifying with it by taking offense at it...

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
35. Right!
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 07:42 PM
Jan 2016

I mean, Bernie could have been talking about Hillary -- or most of the Klown Kar Kings in the Republican primary.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
36. I agree with your take on the motives
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 07:55 PM
Jan 2016

"...in order to justify and ramp up the negative campaigning they're engaged in."

If you want to engage in negative campaigning make sure the perception is that the other guy started it.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
37. I think they should run "As Senator from New York,
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 08:06 PM
Jan 2016

I represented Wall Street" as an ad....

and maybe then just scroll their contributions to her.


I suppose they could call that 'negative', but WTF. I was never on board with this
"never ever, EVER run a negative ad" thing anyway--
especially in response to a competitor.

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