2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHere’s Why Clinton’s Lead over Sanders Is Shrinking
The latest Des Moines Register/Bloomberg survey of the Democratic presidential terrain in Iowa contains some bad news for former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton -- and some really bad news.
The bad news is that her once commanding lead over Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders in the Hawkeye State has shriveled, from seven percentage points last month to just two points now which is less than the highly-regarded surveys 4 point margin of error. Clinton leads Sanders heading into the Feb. 1 Iowa caucuses, 42 percent to 40 percent, with former Maryland governor Martin OMalley bringing up the rear with 4 percent.
Related: Sanders' Surge Threatens a Replay of 2008 for Clinton
The really bad news is that Clintons decline in a state she lost to Barack Obama in 2008 has less to do with Sanders surging than many early Clinton supporters having second thoughts about whether to stand by her or shift allegiance to Sanders, the self-styled democratic socialist who has captivated liberal audiences with his relentless attacks on Wall Street and the billionaire class.
https://beta.finance.yahoo.com/news/why-clinton-lead-over-sanders-203900726.html
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Des Moines Register!
Bernie has more support out here than they realize. It's a movement that cannot be stopped.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)At this point I believe that the voters still favor HRC. The essential thing is for voters to understand how important every election is, and to actually come out and vote.
snoringvoter
(178 posts)at the caucuses.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Could it be 2008 again?
Marty McGraw
(1,024 posts)established name and presence that HRC has, the recent Trend has got to be a painful one to bear witness to. That Trend says it all.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Both have history, and positions. Now it is up to the electorate to decide who best speaks for the people.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)people that otherwise have been disenfranchised by the Big Money politics that H. Clinton is famous for, are beginning to realize that there is a real chance for change from the corruption currently strangling our democracy.
Marty McGraw
(1,024 posts)a start and means toward weeding out all of the money induced corruption that have poisoned this once great institution. All we're left with is hope now and this choice for the people is a true champion for that cause.
Let's hope this is as affective as I am hoping for the down ticket votes as well. I have full faith in the kind of appointments Bernie and his cabinet would choose to fill all those appointed rolls.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Faux pas
(14,664 posts)Marty McGraw
(1,024 posts)I'm new with article hunting beyond the cherished DU borders. DU has spoiled me this way with all their wonderful posters here being so on the ball - Leaves one for not. (needing)
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)through to come up with the topics that appear here. I just got tired of it.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)..and endorses Sanders.....
Marty McGraw
(1,024 posts)smile in the face of his character and would truly benefit a long game. Really ashamed at how some of our one time esteemed representative folk raced in hap-haphazardly to endorse the anointed one w/o thinking of the future weigh down of how the public in general will view them down the road.
Z_California
(650 posts)I think a majority of O'Malley supporters will caucus for Bernie. In order to win a delegate, a candidate must have at least 15% support in any given caucus. If your candidate has less than 15% you can choose to go home/not support anyone, or you can caucus for another candidate. I have to believe most O'Malley supporters are looking for an HRC alternative.
But I could be wrong.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)If O'Malley supporters wanted to support Clinton, they wouldn't be looking at someone like O'Malley - he's got a different philosophy than Clinton, and there is much to be admired about him. It's the same things Sanders supporters admire about Bernie.
As you say, we could both be wrong, but I'd wager money on the fact that O'Malley supporters will go all in with Sanders before they will Clinton. Clinton burned a hell of a lot of bridges in 2008, and unfortunately for Hillary, informed voters looking at candidates based upon their merits are going to remember those things. Those are also the sort of voters that favor O'Malley.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Duval
(4,280 posts)highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)[center][font color=red size=12 face=impact]TRAITORS!!!![/font][/center]
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Hillary at 42% is if the caucuses were held today, which is also good news for
Bernie since he's the one who's trending, with no end in sight.
Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)Thanks for the thread, Marty McGraw.
Marty McGraw
(1,024 posts)Thank you for sharing the read with me.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Marty McGraw
(1,024 posts)if/when after losing the first 2 or 3 states she would back out and save some pocket change this time around.
Then again, I would take bets that she has heavy investments made with most of the large media corps. Nice friendly closed loop them folk are. Where else does all that friendly donation money wind up at.
Renew Deal
(81,855 posts)There is no message. Sanders and Trump are the only candidates with a real message. This doesn't mean there aren't reasons to vote for her. Just that she doesn't have a message.