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Today's Nate's 538 2016 Primary Polls-Only Forecast: Iowa-Hillary-66%, Bernie-34% (Original Post) Alfresco Jan 2016 OP
wow...this IS good news. n't Sheepshank Jan 2016 #1
I do not see the 66/34 randys1 Jan 2016 #2
On the left side of the page there is polls plus and polls only. Click one. Alfresco Jan 2016 #3
OK, thanks...good to know for future use. This is chance of winning, not votes. randys1 Jan 2016 #7
prank enid602 Jan 2016 #31
nothing has changed per the OP link--Hillary still at 82 %... riversedge Jan 2016 #30
This means that when Bernie wins it will indeed be an upset and a very important early state result? JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #4
One can interpret the outcome as one wishes. :-) Alfresco Jan 2016 #8
:-) n/t JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #11
66/34??? NorthCarolina Jan 2016 #5
Chance of winning, not votes. you have to look closely, lots here...I missed some too randys1 Jan 2016 #9
Nothing to be sorry about. I post it here for informational purposes only. :-) Alfresco Jan 2016 #12
The numbers in the headline are not poll numbers... Bjorn Against Jan 2016 #16
Thanks for the NorthCarolina Jan 2016 #24
Feb 1st, Bernie will have a late-night snack delivered to Mr. Silver 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #6
You think Bernie would stoop so low? Alfresco Jan 2016 #14
I'm speaking metaphorically, of course. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #15
Wasn't this 82/18 yesterday?? winter is coming Jan 2016 #10
That was polls-plus. I decided to post polls-only today. Follow the link provided, check it out. Alfresco Jan 2016 #13
Exactly, it took Mr. Silver exactly 24 hours to start back-peddling, just enough time 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #17
Today's polls-plus is 82-18 same as it was yesterday. Alfresco Jan 2016 #18
OK. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #21
I predict your predictions of his predictions will be wrong. :-) Alfresco Jan 2016 #23
Nate Silver fared terribly in Thursday's UK election Go Vols Jan 2016 #25
Yup. Nate needs to send his crystal ball back to the pawn shop, for some tweeking. nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #27
Polls-plus is still at 82% today. OilemFirchen Jan 2016 #20
. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #22
K&R. YEEESSSS! lunamagica Jan 2016 #19
Hillary has a chance to shine on Sunday. Dawson Leery Jan 2016 #26
I agree. She does well in debates. I think Sunday will be no exception. Alfresco Jan 2016 #28
Her poll numbers go up after debates. I hope this thime isn't lunamagica Jan 2016 #29
if anyone remembers to see it. Qutzupalotl Jan 2016 #32
1/16/16 Nate's 538 2016 Primary Polls-Only Forecast: Iowa-Hillary-66%, Bernie-34% Alfresco Jan 2016 #33

randys1

(16,286 posts)
7. OK, thanks...good to know for future use. This is chance of winning, not votes.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 05:47 PM
Jan 2016

Which you know but I am pointing out to others.

You could lead 51-49 and have a 99% chance of winning, technically

The actual numbers are closer.

enid602

(8,613 posts)
31. prank
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 07:07 PM
Jan 2016

66-32. Tomorrow it will 32-66. Thr next day 66-32 again. I thino the pollsters are having fun with us.

riversedge

(70,186 posts)
30. nothing has changed per the OP link--Hillary still at 82 %...
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 07:07 PM
Jan 2016

The odds and polls for presidential primaries and caucuses, updated daily.

Read more: How this works »

UPDATED 5:03 PM EST | Jan 15, 2016
L Iowa Democratic caucuses

According to our latest polls-plus forecast, Hillary Clinton has an 82% chance of winning the Iowa caucuses.
Polls-plus forecast
Polls-only forecast

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
4. This means that when Bernie wins it will indeed be an upset and a very important early state result?
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 05:45 PM
Jan 2016

Or would we see prevarications then about how Iowa doesn't matter?

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
16. The numbers in the headline are not poll numbers...
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 06:00 PM
Jan 2016

These numbers are what Nate Silver claims are each candidate's odds of winning based on recent polls. Nearly all of the recent polls have the race within single digits except for one from Gravis that has Hillary with a 21 point lead. The Gravis poll is so far out of line with the other polls that it is almost certainly junk, but because it is a pretty new poll and Nate Silver is giving it a lot of weight which is certainly skewing the results here.

Bottom line is that Selzer which is considered the gold standard has Hillary leading by only 2%, Quinnipiac which is another highly respected poll has Bernie leading by 5%. If it were not for the Gravis outlier Silver's numbers would be a lot closer.

I would not worry about Silver's numbers, this is a very close race and Bernie has a very good chance of winning.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
24. Thanks for the
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 06:47 PM
Jan 2016

explanation...it seemed from the OP title "Primary Polls-Only Forecast" that it was a "poll" to me but I admit I didn't click the link because the numbers (if a poll) were obviously incredibly off so I just discounted it immediately.

To be completely honest with you I was never worried about it as I am pretty confident that, barring any election shenanigans, Bernie will be the nominee.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
17. Exactly, it took Mr. Silver exactly 24 hours to start back-peddling, just enough time
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 06:02 PM
Jan 2016

to hope some rubes would read his crap and take it seriously enough to change their
vote to "the inevitable winner" <--NOT.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
21. OK.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 06:35 PM
Jan 2016

fair enough. I didn't realize Mr. Silver had two different indices. my bad.

He's still full of crap, and his 'predictions' i predict are going to look foolish in
hind-sight on Feb 2nd.

I'm sure he'll have some equally implausible 'explanation' for it as well.

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
25. Nate Silver fared terribly in Thursday's UK election
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 06:49 PM
Jan 2016
05/08/15
Nate Silver fared terribly in Thursday's UK election: In his pre-election forecast, he gave 278 seats to Conservatives and 267 to Labour. Shortly after midnight, he was forecasting 272 seats for Conservatives and 271 for Labour. But when the sun rose in London on Friday, Conservatives had an expected 329 seats, against Labour's 233.

The fault, Silver claimed, was with the polling: "It’s becoming increasingly clear that pre-election polls underestimated how well Conservatives would do and overestimated Labour’s result," the statistician guru wrote in the wee hours of the morning. (He also overestimated the Liberal Democrats' result by roughly 20 seats).


http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2015/05/nate-silver-polls-are-failing-us-206799

Alfresco

(1,698 posts)
33. 1/16/16 Nate's 538 2016 Primary Polls-Only Forecast: Iowa-Hillary-66%, Bernie-34%
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:35 PM
Jan 2016

Today's numbers are same as 1/15/16.

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