2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWho is David Brock? The pos who admitted he lied about Anita Hill
in an attempt to destroy her so as to aid Clarence Thomas. He's as slimy a political operative as can be found in American politics.
That he's in Hillary's inner circle speaks volumes.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_Anita_Hill
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brock
last1standing
(11,709 posts)They don't care what has to be done to get them there.
cali
(114,904 posts)last1standing
(11,709 posts)David Brock is Hillary's Dick Morris. The Clinton's always need a republican dirty-trickster by their side.
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)They shall be known by the company they keep.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)My problem is Hillary's attacks are so lame. Not that she's attacking Sanders.
Sanders has never had to deal with a national heavy-duty campaign.
cali
(114,904 posts)noamnety
(20,234 posts)I understand that a person can change their political views, and I understand that people can feel remorse for an action or a few actions that they've taken.
But I have a very hard time believing that a person can change the entirety of their nature, acting with no ethics whatsoever, to being someone I could trust.
It's one of those things ... like Bill Cosby could publicly repent and apologize and give his entire fortune to a women's shelter - but I sure the hell am not going to go up to his hotel room for a drink afterwards.
Duval
(4,280 posts)highly critical of Hillary (even mentioned Chelsea) regarding her lie about Bernie's health care proposal. It also mentioned that polls show Trump would beat her, but not Bernie. More food for thought.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Response to KittyWampus (Reply #2)
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beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)By ALEX KUCZYNSKI and WILLIAM GLABERSON
Published: June 27, 2001
The author of a best-selling book that attacked the credibility of Anita F. Hill has disavowed its premise, and now says that he lied in print to protect the reputation of Justice Clarence Thomas.
David Brock, the author of the book, ''The Real Anita Hill'' (Free Press, 1993), has also suggested, in a magazine article to be published this week, that Justice Thomas used an intermediary to provide Mr. Brock with damaging information about a woman who had come forward to provide support for Ms. Hill's accusations of harassment by Justice Thomas. Ms. Hill's accusations became the focus of Senate hearings into Justice Thomas's nomination to the Supreme Court in 1991.
Mr. Brock reported that he then used the information to force the woman to retract her statements about Justice Thomas. The article, in the August issue of Talk magazine, is excerpted from Mr. Brock's new book, ''Blinded by the Right: The Conscience of an Ex Conservative'' (Crown Publishers), which is scheduled to be published in September.
Describing an article he wrote for The American Spectator, a conservative magazine, in 1992, which became the basis for his book on Ms. Hill, he said he did everything he could to ''ruin Hill's credibility,'' using ''virtually every derogatory and often contradictory allegation I had collected on Hill into the vituperative mix.''
''I demonized Democratic senators, their staffs, and Hill's feminist supporters without ever interviewing any of them,'' he continued.
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/27/us/book-author-says-he-lied-his-attacks-anita-hill-bid-aid-justice-thomas.html
Anyone who would do that is a misogynist.
cali
(114,904 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)The only people I know who weren't outraged were right wing nut jobs and misogynists.
Unbelievable the things I'm reading on what used to be a liberal website.
Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)BTW, I support Bernie.
AllyCat
(16,180 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Makes you wonder what website you're on.
AllyCat
(16,180 posts)Perhaps it is out there.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I'll never forget watching those hearings, it was excruciating, humiliating, cruel beyond belief.
What a courageous woman she was, she knew what they would do to her.
senz
(11,945 posts)Brock et.al. tried and almost succeeded in ruining her reputation for good, all for being the object of a licentious man's rude remarks and come-ons.
And for what? For Clarence Thomas, the epitome of resentment, permanently ensconced in smug, silent bitterness. Who adds nothing to the Court but a Scalia rubber stamp.
Meanwhile, Anita Hill remains cheerful, kind, and has moved on with her life.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)But he's just misunderstood, he's repented, he's not like that anymore...
Too fucking late, the damage was done, a woman's reputation was destroyed and a right wing stooge was put on the SCOTUS for life.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)I detest liars.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Especially since he's employing the same tactics against a Democratic candidate.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)SwankyXomb
(2,030 posts)that there is no right-wing position or action, no matter how extreme, that doesn't have it's defenders here.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)This man is sliming a Democrat not a Republican.
certainot
(9,090 posts)the junk writing they shit out of their think tanks.
what did the trick was the fact that they had hundreds of radio stations selling what he wrote, with limbaugh as point man.
it worked because they had a talk radio psyops going full speed in the early 90s, and that coincides with the rise of ALEC and the begining of a historical record partisanship. and mostly it worked because the left ignored it.
rw talk radio still basically gets a free speech free ride- a very big mistake going into yet another election year.
if the left/dems weren't ignoring rw talk radio then and we had gotten anita hill's back and done what flushrush and stoprush did for sandra fluke, limbaugh wouldn't have gotten thomas through. and with his invisibility cloak off and rw radio on the media radar we could have avoided two decades of disastrous rw dominated politics.
and it looks like nothing has changed. the only positive development is that the party of lincoln is now the party of limbaugh and limbaugh and sons teabag/talk radio candidates are killing the establishment GOP and their PAC money.
but while it may hamper their chances to keep it close enough to steal, there are thousands of other elections they will be close enough on, or even win, because of ignoring rw radio. and as long as it is ignored bernie and hillary supporters will not collectively be able to truthfully say they're getting their candidate's back.
one way to end that shit is to push the 90+ universities that broadcast sports on more than 260 limbaugh stations to end that self-destructive idiocy - and without it the right's most important political weapon would fall apart.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Paula Jones, Juanita Broaddrick, Monica Lewinsky scandals - he spent YEARS digging up dirt on the Clintons. So, of course, they hire him to work on HRH's campaign.
Makes all the sense in the world!
He's EVIL.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
MADem
(135,425 posts)He was also a gay man in the closet, living a lie and trying, desperately, to please a father to whom he was a constant disappointment.
I don't consider David Brock a "POS." I consider him a brave man who had the courage to face HIMSELF and admit that he was on the wrong path, and change.
Without Brock, there is so much we wouldn't know about the Republicans and the way they acquired and consolidated power.
He also apologized to Anita Hill. I haven't heard HER call him a "POS" -- and I really think her opinion is the one that matters.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=121534&page=1
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/27/us/book-author-says-he-lied-his-attacks-anita-hill-bid-aid-justice-thomas.html
cali
(114,904 posts)He's no different or better and bullshit to the claim that we should be thankful to that slimy piece of shit.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Nice of you to denigrate a gay man who was constantly under the gun and running scared for the first few decades of his life, though--real compassionate of you.
"Slimy piece of shit" eh?
You do realize he also had to recant for trashing the Clintons during his Spectator career?
I get the strong impression that you really don't know much about this man at all.
I don't think Anita Hill shares your view--and she's the one that counts.
Say--are you as angry at JOE BIDEN as you are at David Brock? All things being equal, you should be....
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/biden-anita-hill-women-senate-clarence-thomas-213864
cali
(114,904 posts)His behavior is disgusting.
MADem
(135,425 posts)And then, review JOE BIDEN's conduct in the entire Anita Hill affair, too.
If you don't want to do the research, Kerry Washington will be starring in HBO's CONFIRMATION, soon--and that will give you a good look at what avuncular then - Senator Biden, and Scooter Libby's wife (who worked for Joe), were up to when it came to putting Ms. Hill through the wringer.
That movie is a not-unimportant part of the reason why Biden chose to not run. It brings up an unsavory aspect of his career.
cali
(114,904 posts)So save your disgraceful inference that I'm being homophobic
MADem
(135,425 posts)championing.
It's not about YOUR supposed "homophobia," it's about his own training from childhood to be "self-loathing."
What's disgraceful is that you claim to have read the book and completely missed that key take-away.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)he will do his dirty work for whichever side will have him.
MADem
(135,425 posts)m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)jesus christ! I think he is a SLIMY PIECE OF SHIT AS WELL and i am gay. oh and I read all his garbage in the early 90's when he was writing for American Specatator and I read his book later.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Do you share the same disdain for Joe Biden?
cali
(114,904 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)He's not a creep. He's a guy who made mistakes as a young man, who confessed and atoned for them.
You're still avoiding that Biden question, I see.
In a bit deep, I should say.....
MADem
(135,425 posts)His orientation is a central theme. It informs his life. As one might expect, particularly when he was raised by an unforgiving father from whom he sought approval and affection.
Why were you reading "all his garbage" in the Spectator? Who read that utter crap back then, save people who were in those circles?
Do you criticize Biden as robustly? I've never noticed you trashing him up on these boards. After all, he was the guy who did the public take-down on Anita Hill--and he had help...from Scooter Libby's wife.
Response to MADem (Reply #9)
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MADem
(135,425 posts)Last edited Sat Jan 16, 2016, 11:30 PM - Edit history (1)
Do you feel the same way about Joe Biden?
EDIT:
FWIW....I saw your comments (above and below) before you deleted them.
That was probably a good move on your part.
Response to MADem (Reply #75)
DisgustipatedinCA This message was self-deleted by its author.
ellenfl
(8,660 posts)i'm seeing the same discord on fb. when did dems start eating their own?
MADem
(135,425 posts)Hopefully it will quiet down soon.
A lot of people have left. Some newcomers don't seem to have that 2001 spirit that united us.
It's a far less courteous environment, I'm sorry to say. The worst I've seen here--and 2007/8 was pretty doggone ugly.
On the bright side, when it gets particularly toxic it incentivizes one to get on up and go do something useful in the real world~!
brooklynite
(94,510 posts)...through his AMERICAN BRIDGE SuperPAC (the only one I give money to).
Nb - I've gotten to know him and his organization, so I'll discount the behind-the-keyboard anonymous outrage.
MADem
(135,425 posts)David Brock has apologized and more than atoned for his conduct in the past. He's been key to understanding how the GOP runs their shit, how they think, and what they're willing to do.
He really ripped the scab off their whole enterprise--he was key in turning the tables on them with that book, and for that, I am eternally grateful. So are a lot of other Democrats who are glad to know how the GOP ran their schemes.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)underpants
(182,788 posts)It exposes the creation of the RW press and columnist choir from the inside. As with many things in the Reagan and post era it was initially funded by Rev. Moon.
MADem
(135,425 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Sanders campaign manager is no peacemaker.
cali
(114,904 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)But that is his job.
cali
(114,904 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)his book.
cali
(114,904 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)What happened to Anita Hill during those hearings was so reprehensible there are no words.
That you can compare it to anything Weaver has done is unbelievable.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)I noticed you edited after my response. Interesting.
MADem
(135,425 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Iggo
(47,552 posts)Fuck his apologies.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)hfojvt
(37,573 posts)I could have sworn that three years ago, Brock was an ally of the left. Isn't he the guy who started Media Matters?
But apparently anybody now on the wrong side needs to be Berned.
You are either with us or you are with the terrorists, er I mean banksters.
uberblonde
(1,215 posts)He also wrote a nasty hit piece on Bill Clinton when he still worked for the American Spectator.
Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)You hatred is ridiculous
Gore1FL
(21,129 posts)There are a lot of things to criticize Clinton for. This isn't one of them.
Go Bernie!
Gman
(24,780 posts)WTH are you talking about?
Capt.Rocky300
(1,005 posts)I heard him interviewed years ago (it may have been on Air America) and he stated he'd changed his ways from being a right wing instigator and wanted to expose the right for what it was and that would be through Media Matters. Pretty disappointing, eh?
Gman
(24,780 posts)Even if Sanders were to get elected. People here are going to be so disillusioned.
Cowpunk
(719 posts)This book was a major influence on my move to the left as I became politically aware. He blew the whistle on the vast network of right wing smear merchants and con artists and those who back them financially. I still view him with some suspicion because of his previous life's work and his close ties to the Clinton machine and the DNC, but there is no doubt that he has been a major thorn in the side of the right wing for many years.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)of the *left*--heck, a thorn in the side of anyone without a plus bank account
wilt the stilt
(4,528 posts)and my observation is your hatred of people is bordering on insanity. Many of you are no different than Trump supporters and other right wing supporters. The vitriolic nature of your comments are unhinged. Go look in the mirror and ask yourself if you are proud of your conduct.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)Brock and his relationship to Clinton says a lot about what is wrong with the corporate wing of our party. YMMV, but that doesn't make it hatred or insanity, we care about who our party associates with and what tactics they are employing.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Anyone got links to the DU threads reporting how a journalist refused to along with some sleazy operation of his? It was several months ago. There was an incriminating email IIRC.
The point here is that he doesn't deserve to be allowed three strikes in this election cycle. He deserves to be asked tough questions, and by several journalists.