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Who is David Brock? The pos who admitted he lied about Anita Hill (Original Post) cali Jan 2016 OP
And Team Weathervane wants him and Hillary in the Whitehouse. last1standing Jan 2016 #1
He hasn't changed a bit. cali Jan 2016 #3
Nope. The slimeball who learned at Lee Atwater's knee is still the same snake. last1standing Jan 2016 #6
They're called good close personal friends. Cassiopeia Jan 2016 #14
And you ignore his shift to the Left in yet another post. And gee- poor poor Bernie KittyWampus Jan 2016 #2
He's the same.slimy piece of dog shit he always was. cali Jan 2016 #4
I'm with you on this. noamnety Jan 2016 #68
Our newspaper today carried an editorial Duval Jan 2016 #21
LOL! He's had zero negative coverage by Republicans. KittyWampus Jan 2016 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #57
Book Author Says He Lied in His Attacks on Anita Hill beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #5
Fuck that asswipe cali Jan 2016 #7
Poutrage! Poutrage! leftofcool Jan 2016 #19
Wow. Someone on DU is referring to anger over what happened to Anita Hill as "poutrage"? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #23
Sexist, sexist comment! Laffy Kat Jan 2016 #54
What a POS. AllyCat Jan 2016 #41
And he's being defended here while we're attacked for calling him out. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #42
I'd like a link to Anita Hill's reaction to his apology. AllyCat Jan 2016 #44
She was probably more gracious than I am. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #47
Yes, to this day, she's gracious. senz Jan 2016 #48
Exactly - we have Brock to thank for Thomas. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #50
I've never understood how people can respect themselves and accept being lied to. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #58
The fact that he switched teams doesn't make him a golden boy. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #62
Once you've been caught lying, it's kind of over, no matter which team you're on. nt DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #63
I've found SwankyXomb Jan 2016 #59
Never ceases to amaze me. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #64
his work probably wouldn't have done much on its own, just like a lot of certainot Jan 2016 #79
"Blinded by the Right" - read it. Brock was a Rabid RW operative during Whitewater, Gennifer Flowers in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #8
And who apologized and confessed all in his book BLINDED BY THE RIGHT. MADem Jan 2016 #9
That hardly exculpates the pos. cali Jan 2016 #10
Unbelievable. All I can suggest is that you read the book. It will open your eyes. MADem Jan 2016 #11
I read it when it came out and didn't buy it cali Jan 2016 #12
You might want to check it out of the library and read it again. MADem Jan 2016 #20
Oh, and his sexuality has nothing to do with his being an unethical pos cali Jan 2016 #13
Again, you need to re-read the book. His sexuality was CENTRAL to his right-winged MADem Jan 2016 #22
I read it...and he only came to regret his actions when his RW friends kicked him to the curb. Punkingal Jan 2016 #15
I think you need to re-read, too. nt MADem Jan 2016 #30
so you think his being gay exempts him from criticism? m-lekktor Jan 2016 #17
Wow--y'all are something else! MADem Jan 2016 #24
No, that would be you. Defending that creep. Still a hitman cali Jan 2016 #25
Look at you! Wow, it's rather obvious that you're feeling a bit piqued.... MADem Jan 2016 #28
You read his book? Read it again. MADem Jan 2016 #81
This message was self-deleted by its author DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #60
Mmmm hmmmm. MADem Jan 2016 #75
This message was self-deleted by its author DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #76
thank you. i have been away for a while. when did this place start sounding rw? wtf!? ellenfl Jan 2016 #61
Only in the past six to ten months, I'm afraid. MADem Jan 2016 #73
In the meantime, he's been knocking off Republicans... brooklynite Jan 2016 #16
Really!!!! MADem Jan 2016 #27
Oh piss! Isn't there a new "Hillary is in bed with Wall Street" article you can find and post? leftofcool Jan 2016 #18
He repented. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #26
"Blinded by the Right" is a great read. underpants Jan 2016 #29
It revealed SO MUCH. It explained the inner workings of the GOP 'satanic mills!' nt MADem Jan 2016 #43
And he never changed. He's just a hitman cali Jan 2016 #31
Thats politics. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #32
Weaver is nothing like Brock cali Jan 2016 #34
I beg to differ. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #36
And you are not familiar with him. I am. cali Jan 2016 #39
True but from what I see my point still stands. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #40
You're obviously not as "familiar" with him as you insist, since you missed one of the key themes of MADem Jan 2016 #46
We're talking about weaver. And Brock is still vile. It's just now he's scum for Hillary cali Jan 2016 #65
The comic book salesman? He certainly comes off as a "Hitman." nt MADem Jan 2016 #70
He didn't help publicly destroy a black woman who was a victim. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #37
Thats a fair point. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #38
You mean like Joe Biden did? nt MADem Jan 2016 #45
Another fair point. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #49
So what. He did it. The damage is done. Iggo Jan 2016 #71
He wants more Wall Street looting. JRLeft Jan 2016 #35
ah well, politics hfojvt Jan 2016 #51
Yeah, same guy. uberblonde Jan 2016 #55
He started Media Matters which has done major work exposing the right-wing liars. Zen Democrat Jan 2016 #52
Don't you know he is a feminist supporter of Hillary. jwirr Jan 2016 #53
pathetic joeybee12 Jan 2016 #56
He came clean about it and then wrote a book exposing it. Gore1FL Jan 2016 #66
He founded Media Matters Gman Jan 2016 #67
Yup he did.......... Capt.Rocky300 Jan 2016 #72
This from the same people that turned on Planned Parenthood. Gman Jan 2016 #74
Brock's "The Republican Noise Machine" should be required reading. Cowpunk Jan 2016 #69
the problem is, it IS a playbook, and now he's easily switched to being a thorn in the side MisterP Jan 2016 #78
I've in general been watching this back and forth from the sidelines wilt the stilt Jan 2016 #77
Wow, I think the OP is spot on dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #80
Same here, but I don't have a degree in psychology Babel_17 Jan 2016 #84
The POS who just took the fall for Clinton's trial balloon. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #82
Brock is a consumate operative Babel_17 Jan 2016 #83

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
1. And Team Weathervane wants him and Hillary in the Whitehouse.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 06:32 PM
Jan 2016

They don't care what has to be done to get them there.

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
6. Nope. The slimeball who learned at Lee Atwater's knee is still the same snake.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 06:37 PM
Jan 2016

David Brock is Hillary's Dick Morris. The Clinton's always need a republican dirty-trickster by their side.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
2. And you ignore his shift to the Left in yet another post. And gee- poor poor Bernie
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 06:32 PM
Jan 2016

My problem is Hillary's attacks are so lame. Not that she's attacking Sanders.

Sanders has never had to deal with a national heavy-duty campaign.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
68. I'm with you on this.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 08:46 PM
Jan 2016

I understand that a person can change their political views, and I understand that people can feel remorse for an action or a few actions that they've taken.

But I have a very hard time believing that a person can change the entirety of their nature, acting with no ethics whatsoever, to being someone I could trust.

It's one of those things ... like Bill Cosby could publicly repent and apologize and give his entire fortune to a women's shelter - but I sure the hell am not going to go up to his hotel room for a drink afterwards.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
21. Our newspaper today carried an editorial
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 07:12 PM
Jan 2016

highly critical of Hillary (even mentioned Chelsea) regarding her lie about Bernie's health care proposal. It also mentioned that polls show Trump would beat her, but not Bernie. More food for thought.

Response to KittyWampus (Reply #2)

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
5. Book Author Says He Lied in His Attacks on Anita Hill
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 06:36 PM
Jan 2016
Book Author Says He Lied in His Attacks on Anita Hill in Bid to Aid Justice Thomas
By ALEX KUCZYNSKI and WILLIAM GLABERSON
Published: June 27, 2001

The author of a best-selling book that attacked the credibility of Anita F. Hill has disavowed its premise, and now says that he lied in print to protect the reputation of Justice Clarence Thomas.

David Brock, the author of the book, ''The Real Anita Hill'' (Free Press, 1993), has also suggested, in a magazine article to be published this week, that Justice Thomas used an intermediary to provide Mr. Brock with damaging information about a woman who had come forward to provide support for Ms. Hill's accusations of harassment by Justice Thomas. Ms. Hill's accusations became the focus of Senate hearings into Justice Thomas's nomination to the Supreme Court in 1991.

Mr. Brock reported that he then used the information to force the woman to retract her statements about Justice Thomas. The article, in the August issue of Talk magazine, is excerpted from Mr. Brock's new book, ''Blinded by the Right: The Conscience of an Ex Conservative'' (Crown Publishers), which is scheduled to be published in September.

Describing an article he wrote for The American Spectator, a conservative magazine, in 1992, which became the basis for his book on Ms. Hill, he said he did everything he could to ''ruin Hill's credibility,'' using ''virtually every derogatory and often contradictory allegation I had collected on Hill into the vituperative mix.''

''I demonized Democratic senators, their staffs, and Hill's feminist supporters without ever interviewing any of them,'' he continued.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/27/us/book-author-says-he-lied-his-attacks-anita-hill-bid-aid-justice-thomas.html


Anyone who would do that is a misogynist.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
23. Wow. Someone on DU is referring to anger over what happened to Anita Hill as "poutrage"?
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 07:14 PM
Jan 2016

The only people I know who weren't outraged were right wing nut jobs and misogynists.

Unbelievable the things I'm reading on what used to be a liberal website.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
42. And he's being defended here while we're attacked for calling him out.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 07:32 PM
Jan 2016

Makes you wonder what website you're on.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
47. She was probably more gracious than I am.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 07:38 PM
Jan 2016

I'll never forget watching those hearings, it was excruciating, humiliating, cruel beyond belief.

What a courageous woman she was, she knew what they would do to her.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
48. Yes, to this day, she's gracious.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 07:49 PM
Jan 2016

Brock et.al. tried and almost succeeded in ruining her reputation for good, all for being the object of a licentious man's rude remarks and come-ons.

And for what? For Clarence Thomas, the epitome of resentment, permanently ensconced in smug, silent bitterness. Who adds nothing to the Court but a Scalia rubber stamp.

Meanwhile, Anita Hill remains cheerful, kind, and has moved on with her life.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
50. Exactly - we have Brock to thank for Thomas.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 07:54 PM
Jan 2016

But he's just misunderstood, he's repented, he's not like that anymore...

Too fucking late, the damage was done, a woman's reputation was destroyed and a right wing stooge was put on the SCOTUS for life.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
62. The fact that he switched teams doesn't make him a golden boy.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 08:30 PM
Jan 2016

Especially since he's employing the same tactics against a Democratic candidate.

SwankyXomb

(2,030 posts)
59. I've found
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 08:27 PM
Jan 2016

that there is no right-wing position or action, no matter how extreme, that doesn't have it's defenders here.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
79. his work probably wouldn't have done much on its own, just like a lot of
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:22 PM
Jan 2016

the junk writing they shit out of their think tanks.

what did the trick was the fact that they had hundreds of radio stations selling what he wrote, with limbaugh as point man.

it worked because they had a talk radio psyops going full speed in the early 90s, and that coincides with the rise of ALEC and the begining of a historical record partisanship. and mostly it worked because the left ignored it.

rw talk radio still basically gets a free speech free ride- a very big mistake going into yet another election year.

if the left/dems weren't ignoring rw talk radio then and we had gotten anita hill's back and done what flushrush and stoprush did for sandra fluke, limbaugh wouldn't have gotten thomas through. and with his invisibility cloak off and rw radio on the media radar we could have avoided two decades of disastrous rw dominated politics.

and it looks like nothing has changed. the only positive development is that the party of lincoln is now the party of limbaugh and limbaugh and sons teabag/talk radio candidates are killing the establishment GOP and their PAC money.

but while it may hamper their chances to keep it close enough to steal, there are thousands of other elections they will be close enough on, or even win, because of ignoring rw radio. and as long as it is ignored bernie and hillary supporters will not collectively be able to truthfully say they're getting their candidate's back.

one way to end that shit is to push the 90+ universities that broadcast sports on more than 260 limbaugh stations to end that self-destructive idiocy - and without it the right's most important political weapon would fall apart.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
8. "Blinded by the Right" - read it. Brock was a Rabid RW operative during Whitewater, Gennifer Flowers
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 06:41 PM
Jan 2016

Paula Jones, Juanita Broaddrick, Monica Lewinsky scandals - he spent YEARS digging up dirt on the Clintons. So, of course, they hire him to work on HRH's campaign.

Makes all the sense in the world!

He's EVIL.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

MADem

(135,425 posts)
9. And who apologized and confessed all in his book BLINDED BY THE RIGHT.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 06:42 PM
Jan 2016

He was also a gay man in the closet, living a lie and trying, desperately, to please a father to whom he was a constant disappointment.

I don't consider David Brock a "POS." I consider him a brave man who had the courage to face HIMSELF and admit that he was on the wrong path, and change.

Without Brock, there is so much we wouldn't know about the Republicans and the way they acquired and consolidated power.

He also apologized to Anita Hill. I haven't heard HER call him a "POS" -- and I really think her opinion is the one that matters.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=121534&page=1

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/27/us/book-author-says-he-lied-his-attacks-anita-hill-bid-aid-justice-thomas.html

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
10. That hardly exculpates the pos.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 06:45 PM
Jan 2016

He's no different or better and bullshit to the claim that we should be thankful to that slimy piece of shit.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
11. Unbelievable. All I can suggest is that you read the book. It will open your eyes.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 06:52 PM
Jan 2016

Nice of you to denigrate a gay man who was constantly under the gun and running scared for the first few decades of his life, though--real compassionate of you.

"Slimy piece of shit" eh?

You do realize he also had to recant for trashing the Clintons during his Spectator career?

I get the strong impression that you really don't know much about this man at all.

I don't think Anita Hill shares your view--and she's the one that counts.

Say--are you as angry at JOE BIDEN as you are at David Brock? All things being equal, you should be....

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/biden-anita-hill-women-senate-clarence-thomas-213864

MADem

(135,425 posts)
20. You might want to check it out of the library and read it again.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 07:11 PM
Jan 2016

And then, review JOE BIDEN's conduct in the entire Anita Hill affair, too.

If you don't want to do the research, Kerry Washington will be starring in HBO's CONFIRMATION, soon--and that will give you a good look at what avuncular then - Senator Biden, and Scooter Libby's wife (who worked for Joe), were up to when it came to putting Ms. Hill through the wringer.

That movie is a not-unimportant part of the reason why Biden chose to not run. It brings up an unsavory aspect of his career.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
13. Oh, and his sexuality has nothing to do with his being an unethical pos
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 07:01 PM
Jan 2016

So save your disgraceful inference that I'm being homophobic

MADem

(135,425 posts)
22. Again, you need to re-read the book. His sexuality was CENTRAL to his right-winged
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 07:13 PM
Jan 2016

championing.

It's not about YOUR supposed "homophobia," it's about his own training from childhood to be "self-loathing."

What's disgraceful is that you claim to have read the book and completely missed that key take-away.

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
15. I read it...and he only came to regret his actions when his RW friends kicked him to the curb.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 07:07 PM
Jan 2016

he will do his dirty work for whichever side will have him.

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
17. so you think his being gay exempts him from criticism?
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 07:08 PM
Jan 2016

jesus christ! I think he is a SLIMY PIECE OF SHIT AS WELL and i am gay. oh and I read all his garbage in the early 90's when he was writing for American Specatator and I read his book later.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
28. Look at you! Wow, it's rather obvious that you're feeling a bit piqued....
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 07:20 PM
Jan 2016

He's not a creep. He's a guy who made mistakes as a young man, who confessed and atoned for them.

You're still avoiding that Biden question, I see.

In a bit deep, I should say.....

MADem

(135,425 posts)
81. You read his book? Read it again.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 11:20 PM
Jan 2016

His orientation is a central theme. It informs his life. As one might expect, particularly when he was raised by an unforgiving father from whom he sought approval and affection.

Why were you reading "all his garbage" in the Spectator? Who read that utter crap back then, save people who were in those circles?

Do you criticize Biden as robustly? I've never noticed you trashing him up on these boards. After all, he was the guy who did the public take-down on Anita Hill--and he had help...from Scooter Libby's wife.

Response to MADem (Reply #9)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
75. Mmmm hmmmm.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:13 PM
Jan 2016

Last edited Sat Jan 16, 2016, 11:30 PM - Edit history (1)

Do you feel the same way about Joe Biden?

EDIT:

FWIW....I saw your comments (above and below) before you deleted them.

That was probably a good move on your part.

Response to MADem (Reply #75)

ellenfl

(8,660 posts)
61. thank you. i have been away for a while. when did this place start sounding rw? wtf!?
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 08:29 PM
Jan 2016

i'm seeing the same discord on fb. when did dems start eating their own?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
73. Only in the past six to ten months, I'm afraid.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:12 PM
Jan 2016

Hopefully it will quiet down soon.

A lot of people have left. Some newcomers don't seem to have that 2001 spirit that united us.

It's a far less courteous environment, I'm sorry to say. The worst I've seen here--and 2007/8 was pretty doggone ugly.

On the bright side, when it gets particularly toxic it incentivizes one to get on up and go do something useful in the real world~!

brooklynite

(94,510 posts)
16. In the meantime, he's been knocking off Republicans...
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 07:07 PM
Jan 2016

...through his AMERICAN BRIDGE SuperPAC (the only one I give money to).

Nb - I've gotten to know him and his organization, so I'll discount the behind-the-keyboard anonymous outrage.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
27. Really!!!!
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 07:18 PM
Jan 2016

David Brock has apologized and more than atoned for his conduct in the past. He's been key to understanding how the GOP runs their shit, how they think, and what they're willing to do.

He really ripped the scab off their whole enterprise--he was key in turning the tables on them with that book, and for that, I am eternally grateful. So are a lot of other Democrats who are glad to know how the GOP ran their schemes.

underpants

(182,788 posts)
29. "Blinded by the Right" is a great read.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 07:21 PM
Jan 2016

It exposes the creation of the RW press and columnist choir from the inside. As with many things in the Reagan and post era it was initially funded by Rev. Moon.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
46. You're obviously not as "familiar" with him as you insist, since you missed one of the key themes of
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 07:36 PM
Jan 2016

his book.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
37. He didn't help publicly destroy a black woman who was a victim.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 07:25 PM
Jan 2016

What happened to Anita Hill during those hearings was so reprehensible there are no words.

That you can compare it to anything Weaver has done is unbelievable.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
51. ah well, politics
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 07:57 PM
Jan 2016

I could have sworn that three years ago, Brock was an ally of the left. Isn't he the guy who started Media Matters?

But apparently anybody now on the wrong side needs to be Berned.

You are either with us or you are with the terrorists, er I mean banksters.

uberblonde

(1,215 posts)
55. Yeah, same guy.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 08:18 PM
Jan 2016

He also wrote a nasty hit piece on Bill Clinton when he still worked for the American Spectator.

Gore1FL

(21,129 posts)
66. He came clean about it and then wrote a book exposing it.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 08:42 PM
Jan 2016

There are a lot of things to criticize Clinton for. This isn't one of them.

Go Bernie!

Capt.Rocky300

(1,005 posts)
72. Yup he did..........
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:08 PM
Jan 2016

I heard him interviewed years ago (it may have been on Air America) and he stated he'd changed his ways from being a right wing instigator and wanted to expose the right for what it was and that would be through Media Matters. Pretty disappointing, eh?

Gman

(24,780 posts)
74. This from the same people that turned on Planned Parenthood.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:12 PM
Jan 2016

Even if Sanders were to get elected. People here are going to be so disillusioned.

Cowpunk

(719 posts)
69. Brock's "The Republican Noise Machine" should be required reading.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:02 PM
Jan 2016

This book was a major influence on my move to the left as I became politically aware. He blew the whistle on the vast network of right wing smear merchants and con artists and those who back them financially. I still view him with some suspicion because of his previous life's work and his close ties to the Clinton machine and the DNC, but there is no doubt that he has been a major thorn in the side of the right wing for many years.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
78. the problem is, it IS a playbook, and now he's easily switched to being a thorn in the side
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:22 PM
Jan 2016

of the *left*--heck, a thorn in the side of anyone without a plus bank account

 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
77. I've in general been watching this back and forth from the sidelines
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:16 PM
Jan 2016

and my observation is your hatred of people is bordering on insanity. Many of you are no different than Trump supporters and other right wing supporters. The vitriolic nature of your comments are unhinged. Go look in the mirror and ask yourself if you are proud of your conduct.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
80. Wow, I think the OP is spot on
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 10:29 PM
Jan 2016

Brock and his relationship to Clinton says a lot about what is wrong with the corporate wing of our party. YMMV, but that doesn't make it hatred or insanity, we care about who our party associates with and what tactics they are employing.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
83. Brock is a consumate operative
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:55 AM
Jan 2016

Anyone got links to the DU threads reporting how a journalist refused to along with some sleazy operation of his? It was several months ago. There was an incriminating email IIRC.

The point here is that he doesn't deserve to be allowed three strikes in this election cycle. He deserves to be asked tough questions, and by several journalists.

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