Calling for new sanctions on Iran is officially the wheels coming off.

[Motown_Johnny]

Calling an ad negative when it isn't was one precursor.

The dishonest attacks against a single payer system was a bigger one.

This really is it. The Democratic party is celebrating another huge diplomatic breakthrough, and the majority of the country with us, when Hillary immediately calls for reversing course.


The one bright spot is that this happened during the primaries (Thank You Bernie Sanders). We have the opportunity to avoid making this terrible candidate our nominee. Lets hope we make the most of that opportunity.

[Uncle Joe]

1. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Motown_Johnny.

[Ferd Berfel]

59. Anyone ofering Aid and Comfort to Hillary on this one needs to read THIS post

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1018253

[daleanime]

2. K&R.....

[sabrina 1]

3. What I don't understand about this is who is she trying to impress? I know she and her

'strategists' thought they had the Dem base 'locked up' no matter what she did. According to what i read, they planned to go after Conservatives, and not worry about the base. Libs they decided would support her no matter what.

On what planet do this obscenely overpaid 'experts' come up with this stuff?

First, she can't win with just the base and by doing this today, what she hasn't already lost, she's likely to lose more.

But for them to think that Conservatives would EVER vote for a Clinton, are they ON something?

[Kelvin Mace]

6. She apparently wants the conservative vote

Since she is losing the liberal vote.

[2pooped2pop]

8. A report came out saying Bernie could take some of the Republican vote

She can't let that happen so she is trying to get a lil npiece of the hatemonger vote. Lol

[Mike__M]

34. ^ Best explanation so far...

...I guess.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

10. are they ON something

it is something so strange that I can not even find a way to think about it

like a clown at a funeral - shocking - unfathomable

[Cassiopeia]

14. As a GE strategy it's not too far off

from potentially being successful. However, we're a long way off from the GE.

I think she still thinks she has this all wrapped up and the primary is just a formality.

[senz]

21. I think she's targeting Dems who vote for the most electable candidate.

She lost her "most electable" status and wants it back. So she's trying to attract militaristic Independents and some Repubs.

[FlatBaroque]

47. Israel, Netanyahu, Haim Saban, AIPAC

is who she is trying to impress.

[global1]

4. Those That Have Already Endorsed Hillary Must Be Feeling Really Embarrassed....

these days.

[senz]

23. I hope so.

[FlatBaroque]

48. Nope.

You will find that most suffer from Shame Deficit Disorder.

[eridani]

5. I'd call the Iran deal the crowing achievement of the Obama administration.

Sanders will protect it, and Clinton will try to get rid of it. The people she is trying to appeal towith this approach will never vote for her under any circumstances, so why is she doing it?

[Wilms]

7. Because her underwriters won't allow her to move too far left.

So she has to go to the right to scare up more votes.

[eridani]

11. How? The wingers hate her n/t

[Wilms]

25. I'm not saying it will work.

In fact, it failed in 2008.

[Motown_Johnny]

50. Because of social issues, not foreign policy or economic policies.

The wingers didn't hate this.

[Enthusiast]

19. It can't possibly work. This smells like extreme desperation.

[snagglepuss]

30. Its to shore up her support with her pro-Israel base.

Thumbing her nose at Obama and Kerry so she can be seen standing firm with Israel.

[zazen]

60. against a Jew who has relatives who died in the Holocaust--incredible n/t

[JDPriestly]

40. Maybe Clinton is jealous of the success that Kerry and Obama have had since she left.

Just a possibility. Not really even a theory.

[bvar22]

67. Freudian Slip?

"the crowing achievement of the Obama administration"?
LOL.

I gotta give Obama & Kerry some props on this deal,
and if they want to 'crow", I'll go along with it.

(I knew you meant "crowning", but found the typo amusing anyway.)

[ejbr]

9. Wasn't there

some talk about preserving Obama's legacy?

[grasswire]

12. okay, I am going over to freerepublic to see what they think about this

I shall return.

:::getting the gas mask on:::

[Kall]

13. Good luck

[grasswire]

17. no mention of this over there.

I DID learn that Bernie is a flat out commie, and that Hillary isn't a lesbian but does dress like one.

UGH

[Enthusiast]

20. How can they even think Bernie is a commie, flat out or otherwise?

They are a misinformed bunch. They probably don't even know what a commie is. That would be my guess.

[Gene Debs]

36. They're the same people for whom Sanders is variously a communist, a

marxist, a fascist and a socialist, and they all use the terms interchangeably because they don't actually know what any of them mean; all they have is some vague idea that they're "bad." And they misspell all of them.

[Enthusiast]

38. LOL!

[JonLeibowitz]

42. LOL. I chuckled! n/t

[eridani]

45. And to those whackjobs, Clinton and Obama are communists as well n/t

[n2doc]

49. Well, they have said for years that Obama is one

Reality don't enter into their minds.

[Motown_Johnny]

54. Of course not. They would need to praise her and they can't do that there.

No mention = support

[Live and Learn]

15. K&R nt

[uponit7771]

16. Unnnnnn, I've heard worse so far

[Motown_Johnny]

51. Really?? What???

Because of the timing, I think this is the worst I have heard so far. We are all celebrating a victory and she says we need to get back on the path to defeat.

IMO, this was just flipping crazy.

Add in the no fly zone in Syria which she has been supporting and it is making it very hard to even take her candidacy seriously anymore.

[uponit7771]

66. a call for Obama to be primaried

[Enthusiast]

18. They can't be this dumb.

Obviously they are trying to lose. Seriously.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

22. A while back I said I wasn't worried because of her history of self-destructing.

[Enthusiast]

26. TPTB will probably throw all in for Kasich. I'm seeing signs of a change.

TPTB do not want Bernie. They would find anyone else to be acceptable.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

29. At this point we need to challenge everyone who has endorsed her and ask if they agree with her....

Let's see how many want to go down with her.

Keeping in mind how many did before.

Some to their utter ruin.

[Enthusiast]

31. Great idea!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

33. That's old school.

[Enthusiast]

35. I'm all in for old school.

[Motown_Johnny]

53. Don't forget to ask about the No Fly Zone in Syria at the same time. n/t

[Enthusiast]

24. Kicked and recommended!

This is fucking loony.

[silvershadow]

27. Hillary and Bibi are practically old college roommates. nt

[fbc]

28. I saw this thread title and thought "stupid republicans"

I didn't even bother reading it. Republicans say stupid nonsense all the time.

Then I see in another thread that this was Clinton... unbelievable

[Spitfire of ATJ]

39. I was at a party about eight years ago and someone who knew zip about politics asked,...

"Is Hillary a Republican or a Democrat?"

I said, "You know, that's a really good question."

[Paka]

32. K&R

Three strikes you're out!

[Old Codger]

37. Maybe

She maybe figures she can get a lot of the Israeli vote, they hate the deal so might be kissing up there...won't help primary but might help GE, she has some misconceptions as to how good her odds are in the primary, doesn't want to believe she will lose...

Pretty much seems to be putting the cart before the horse..

[Motown_Johnny]

52. Bernie is Jewish. You really think she can pull the pro Israel vote

when compared to electing the first Jewish American President?

IMO, this would be similar to trying to pull the African American vote to her in 2008.

To some Americans, Bernie has the same appeal that Barack had for others.

[Old Codger]

56. You will notice

That I said "maybe", no I personally do not think she can pull the jewish vote, but that does not mean that she doesn't think she can.. Remember she is quite as deluded as many of her backers...

[Motown_Johnny]

57. OK, that makes sense. Sorry if I misrepresented your point of view.

I guess to me it makes so little sense that I didn't even consider her being that delusional. I suppose that is a real possibility.

Peace

[Old Codger]

58. She seems to be

Trying to be all things to all people .

[MrChuck]

41. Don't be fooled.

She's making political hay with this one.
Some Dems are just as scared as some GOPers.

[merrily]

43. Spinning out of control.

[Jack Rabbit]

44. It's no exaggeration any more

Tonight, Hillary really was channeling the Republicans.

Nevertheless, it would still give Ted Cruz a real case of cogitative dissonance if she were to announce that she's signing the Cotton letter.. OTOH, that might not surprise me any more.

[stillwaiting]

46. There is a reason neo-conservatives state they would be comfortable with Hillary as President on

foreign policy issues.

We must be wiser than choosing Hillary Clinton.

[Recursion]

55. Gotta agree

That was shocking.

[tammywammy]

61. Iran: US imposes new sanctions over missile test

Iran: US imposes new sanctions over missile test

The new sanctions prevent 11 entities and individuals linked to the missile programme from using the US banking system.

The move came after international nuclear sanctions on Iran were lifted as part of a deal hailed by President Barack Obama on Sunday as "smart".

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35338901

[Motown_Johnny]

62. Lets see how many Democratic primary voters support this.

I take it you don't have MSNBC on right now. They are hitting Hillary hard over this.

[MeNMyVolt]

63. Better yet, let's what Sanders has to say about today's announcement.

[Gothmog]

64. I was pleased to see President Obama announce these sanctions this morning

[Codeine]

65. Heehee! nt