Hillary Clinton’s Lead Over Bernie Sanders Widens - WSJ

[Stuckinthebush]

http://www.wsj.com/articles/clintons-lead-over-sanders-widens-1453039203

WASHINGTON— Hillary Clinton has widened her lead to 25 percentage points in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll finds.

The former secretary of state leads Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders 59% to 34%, a slightly larger margin than the 19-point gap in December.

The new national poll comes as surveys in Iowa and New Hampshire show the race tightening in the states that play host to the first two nominating contests. While losses there would be a setback for Mrs. Clinton, the new Journal/NBC News survey suggests that she would retain strong advantages in the later primaries. Mrs. Clinton owes her durable lead nationally to her strength with key subgroups in the Democratic primary electorate, including nonwhite, older and moderate-to-conservative primary voters.

[lunamagica]

1. K&R. The media neede a horse race, so they created one. But with IA so close,

they need to acknowledge reality or lose all credibility

[Stuckinthebush]

3. I think that's correct

We all love a good match. Hell, I'm bored right now watching the Panthers vs Seahawks game because it is so lopsided. We all like the "they can come back!" rhetoric but the reality is that Seattle is going to lose.

So is Sanders

[Le Taz Hot]

24. The WSJ lost all credibility

the day Rupert Murdoch took it over.

[99th_Monkey]

2. According to the media conglomerates who are major donors to Hillary Clinton

no big surprise that such a 'poll' is manufactured ahead of Iowa by Clinton's donors.

"Fresh off the regulatory defeat of the $45 billion merger between Comcast (NASDAQ: CMCSA) and Time Warner Cable (NYSE: TWC), Comcast regulatory affairs chief David L. Cohen is set to host a $2,700-a-plate fundraiser for 2016 Democratic Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton."

http://www.fiercecable.com/story/comcasts-cohen-hold-fundraiser-hillary-clinton/2015-06-15

[Stuckinthebush]

4. Uh Huh

I'm sure they are rubbing their collective hands and laughing evil laughs right now.

[Cali_Democrat]

5. What does that article have to do with the poll referenced in the OP?

[99th_Monkey]

7. NBC is owned by Comcast, one of Hillary's major donors. n/t

[Green Forest]

10. As in 2008, Iowa caucus goers and NH voters don't give a shit about these national polls.

Thanks for the info. We all know Hillary's paymasters are freaking out.

[livetohike]

6. That will become wider after tonight's debate. n/t

😊

[Stuckinthebush]

8. Especially with the foreign policy focus

That is in Clintons wheelhouse. She will knock it out of the park and the lead in SC will widen.

[bowens43]

15. Really? She was a complete disaster as S o S.

[Stuckinthebush]

18. Benghazi!

[riversedge]

25. You listen to too many RW talking points.

[Fawke Em]

32. Nope - she has been a disaster and it's not about Benghazi.

Iraq
Libya
Syria
Honduras
Haiti

If that's her "wheelhouse," she needs to stay out of the ship.

[livetohike]

22. I didn't know tonight's focus is foreign policy. Will be

interesting. 😊

[JRLeft]

9. Really, because no one will watch it. So that means the media will tell

the nation who won. We already what they are going to say.

[Juicy_Bellows]

20. Yep - it won't be watched by many, as designed.

The media will tell everyone what they want them to hear. The only thing that could disrupt the narrative is if there is a gaffe or particularly interesting exchange. Otherwise, the summary of the debate is probably already written.

[livetohike]

21. On the contrary. The media is trying their best this past week to increase

viewership. They are suddenly giving Sanders airtime, etc.

[JRLeft]

23. No one's watching a debate on a Sunday night.

[cherokeeprogressive]

11. Impossible to reconcile this with what I hear from friends, Family, and on the street.

Absolutely impossible.

Strange.

[Stuckinthebush]

13. Anecdotal vs statistics

I guess that is why. Most of us don't work/live in an environment that mirrors the population.

Actually my friends and family who are Dems here in Alabama are big on Clinton. But, I wouldn't use them as an indicator (although it looks like their sentiments match the population at the moment)

[riversedge]

26. Thanks good to hear.

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[stonecutter357]

12. K&R!

[bowens43]

14. keep dreaming....

[Stuckinthebush]

17. The numbers say it's not a dream

Iowa and NH will not matter in the March primaries. Her lead in these super Tuesday states is overwhelming. Also, the southern state Dems love the Clintons and the numbers indicate such.

[sonofspy777]

16. Consider the source.

Rupert Murdoch!

[Stuckinthebush]

19. Sure.

[orpupilofnature57]

28. What an image!!! +1000!!!!

[orpupilofnature57]

27. Misanthrope Sycophant Monsters Lie, they need to, 600% profit takes a lot of work .

[Trajan]

29. I don't believe this poll

I believe I will await the caucuses ...

[LittleBlue]

30. Bernie will undoubtedly widen this gap tonight

After he gets on the stage, apologizes to her more, compliments her to the point just short of endorsing her, amazing person, Bill an outstanding person, yada yada.

He's got only himself to blame for this. When someone is punching you, you have to punch back.

[Fawke Em]

31. Naional Poll.

[demwing]

33. Hey, did you hear that the US system of state Presidential primaries has been canceled?

Yeah, I didn't hear that one either...I guess national polls aren't relevant.

[Stuckinthebush]

34. OK, then. State polls

Tell me again how Bernie wins?

2/1
Iowa: C +4

2/9
New Hampshire: S +6

2/20
Nevada: C +19.5

2/27
South Carolina: C +40

3/1
Alabama: C +68
Arkansas: C +5
Colorado: C +13
Georgia: C +57
Massachusetts: C +13
Minnesota: C +28
Oklahoma: C +10
Tennessee: C +12
Texas: C +21
Vermont: C +34
Virginia: C +15

3/5
Kansas: ??
Louisiana: C +35
Nebraska: ??

3/6
Maine: S +1

3/8
Michigan: C +7
Mississippi: ??

3/15
Florida: C +28
Illinois: C +37
Missouri: C +5
North Carolina: C +39
Ohio: C +16

3/22
Arizona: C +28
Idaho: C +20
Utah: C +8

[demwing]

35. First, of course Sanders has an uphill fight

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No one I know thinks otherwise.

Second, we have no way to verify your data date, accuracy, or source, so we have to take you at your word.

Third, the #s are not static. Wins in NH and IA will change the game in many other states

Finally, there are other indicators that show Sanders' strength (crowds, donations, etc.)

This won't be a cakewalk for anyone.

ON EDIT: My apologies for the crappy typing. I don't often post from my cellphone, but when I do, I really suck - my finger size to keypad size is ridiculous.

[Stuckinthebush]

36. Honestly, I appreciate your hope

I like Sanders. I do. I'd be very happy if he was our nominee. I'm equally happy with Clinton. I really don't care which of the two wins. I do care about reality, however. Odds are very, very low for a Sanders victory.

My data are simply from what I glean from online sources the veracity of which are always suspect. But a dispassionate view of the data tells the undeniable tale of a Clinton win.

Again, I don't care which one wins. They are both so much better than the alternative.

[Alfresco]

37. 59% to 34% :-)