2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSickening. Clinton waves the "I can take it, but you're attacking Obama..." flag
Blatantly pandering to the Black audience.
:barf:
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)JimDandy
(7,318 posts)And again... :barf:
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Sorry but if you guys can bring up everything she said about him in 2008 we can bring up what he said in 2011.
Get over it.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)It seems others are finding it bizarre too.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Maybe in your world but not mine.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)him in 2008 and ended up turning the Black vote against her. Now she thinks she's talking TO Blacks, but she just ended up talking down to them. Nuff said.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)It must hurt.
Tommy2Tone
(1,307 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Tommy2Tone
(1,307 posts)Bernie thinks white liberals run the Democratic party. Hillary knows black Democrats run the party.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Tommy2Tone
(1,307 posts)It pisses off lifelong Democrats for Bernie and his supporters to trash us when they don't get their way.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Many feel they seldom get their way, and often get the opposite of what they believe in.
Maybe "lifelong Democrats" such as yourself might want to listen and open up more, instead of continually circling the wagons against change.
Tommy2Tone
(1,307 posts)Bernie is talking about a lot of stuff that will never happen. His Medicare is DOA and he knows it but he is the pied piper who says everything people want to hear.
Do you ever ask yourself how he is going to get it accomplished? -
oasis
(49,370 posts)gwheezie
(3,580 posts)Never heard a bad thing about him.
oasis
(49,370 posts)He's GOP through and through.
Green Forest
(232 posts)Bernie got her back, though. Made her look stupid.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)onecaliberal
(32,816 posts)in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)lying as usual. Unfortunately for her, Bernie has Dr. West, Killer Mike, Shaun King and Nina Turner in SC advocating for him! Her SC "firewall" is crumbling.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
Armstead
(47,803 posts)She is both an amazing person and a great advocate for Bernie. She'd get the attention of the AA community, that's for sure.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)She's a tough cookie too. I love her!
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
Peregrine Took
(7,412 posts)HRC is throwing him around tonight!
fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)Then she throws him under the bus when she thinks she can score a point.
She is everything that is wrong with 'politics as usual'!
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)kcjohn1
(751 posts)Obama is big boy and he can take it. He took your cheap shots in 2008 and Republicans over 8 years.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)and on the days he's sick even!
What a stupid move by Clinton.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)RandySF
(58,728 posts)Who asked Obama, to his face, why he said nothing about Stria right after the POTUS talked about Syria.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)why was it the coordinated strategy for democratic candidates to distance themselves from Obama 2 yrs ago, but all of sudden it's not. could it be that the DNC HRC and DWS wanted to throw an election to try to scare people into voting for HRC?
RandySF
(58,728 posts)tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)he still screwed the pooch by offering up cuts to SS and not prosecuting any of the perpetrators responsible for our near total economic collapse
or allowing wall st banks to take our bail out money and still pay billions in bonuses.
or to after all of the above to allow these institutions that bet against american families to gain more power and become more influential
i would have loved to see Obama get challenged from the left in 2012 given these facts, just as i'm glad Bernie decided he wasn't goint to let Hillary take the nomination in a walk
Autumn
(45,043 posts)i'm thankful for Obama, and some good things have taken place over the last 7 years. But we can do better, and this is politics not football. It's not a game - it's not simply about winning and losing - it's about trying to make the world a better place
Autumn
(45,043 posts)We have that obligation.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)you wouldn't think she could actually pull off a complete 180, would you?
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)gwheezie
(3,580 posts)HRC was a member of his cabinet. She has said she's going to continue his policies.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Gothmog
(145,086 posts)Nate and Harry Eaton comment on the need to appeal to the base http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/nbc-democratic-debate-presidential-election-2016/
HARRY ENTEN 10:31 PM
Not really. What I do see, though, is Clinton clearly knows where her base is. She knows she needs black voters in her corner. Thats why she is wrapping herself in the Obama cloth. A lot of people think the Democratic base is exclusively white liberals; its not. Its black Democrats. Unless Sanders can gain support among that group, this primary is over.
NATE SILVER 10:35 PM
More seriously I agree with Harry that the candidates have been speaking mostly to their respective bases on the substance. So Im wondering whether Sanderss feistier demeanor tonight will play positively or negatively with the home audience.
Sanders will not be the nominee unless he expands his base and I do not think that Sanders did this. Attacking President Obama is not a good way to appeal to African American voters