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EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:36 PM Jan 2016

Just how dishonest is Clinton attack on Sanders re: Commodity Futures Modernization Act?

In June 2013, film producer Charles Ferguson interviewed Bill Clinton who said he and Larry Summers couldn't change Alan Greenspan's mind and Congress then passed the Act with a veto-proof supermajority. Ferguson revealed that this was inaccurate and, he said, a lie, while commenting that he thought Clinton was "a really good actor". In fact, Ferguson wrote, the Clinton Administration and Larry Summers lobbied for the Act and joined Robert Rubin in both privately and publicly attacking advocates of regulation.


Wait, what?


"In June, I attended a dinner for Bill Clinton, which was educational. Clinton spoke passionately about his foundation, about African wildlife, inequality, childhood obesity, and much else with enormous factual command, emotion, and rhetorical power. But he and I also spoke privately. I asked him about the financial crisis. He paused and then became even more soulful, thoughtful, passionate, and articulate. And then he proceeded to tell me the most amazing lies I've heard in quite a while.

For example, Mr. Clinton sorrowfully lamented his inability to stop the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which banned all regulation of private (OTC) derivatives trading, and thereby greatly worsened the crisis. Mr. Clinton said that he and Larry Summers had argued with Alan Greenspan, but couldn't budge him, and then Congress passed the law by a veto-proof supermajority, tying his hands. Well, actually, the reason that the law passed by that overwhelming margin was because of the Clinton Administration's strong advocacy, including Congressional testimony by Larry Summers and harsh public and private attacks on advocates of regulation by Summers and Robert Rubin.


Wow, I thought, this guy is a really good actor. And I also saw one reason why Hillary Clinton might not be thrilled about my movie. I discovered others. In Arkansas, she joined the boards of Walmart and Tyson Foods. One of the largest donors to the Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea Clinton Foundation is the government of Saudi Arabia. The Clintons' personal net worth now probably exceeds $200 million, and while earned legally, both the money's sources and the Clintons' public statements indicate a strong aversion to rocking boats or making powerful enemies."

Charles Ferguson
Director, Wall Street documentary 'Inside Job'; Author, 'Predator Nation'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charles-ferguson/hillary-clinton-documentary_b_4014792.html

"The CFMA's chief architect was then-Sen. Phil Gramm (R-Texas), a die-hard deregulator who joined Swiss banking giant UBS after leaving the Senate. Today, he's essentially the rhetorical opposite of Sanders, appearing in congressional hearings to literally bemoan the low pay of multimillionaire CEOs.

By 2000, Sanders was already an unpopular figure with big banks. The prior year, he had vigorously opposed the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act, a Depression-era law which barred conventional banks from engaging in risky securities trading. Its repeal is widely viewed as fueling a merger binge that made companies massive and complex -- a catalyst for the banking collapse.

In a speech on the House floor, then-Rep. Sanders hammered the repeal bill for creating new "taxpayer exposure to potential losses should a financial conglomerate fail."

"It will lead to more megamergers, a small number of corporations dominating the financial service industry and further concentration of economic power in this country," Sanders added.

Yet a year later, Sanders voted in favor of legislation to exempt whole swaths of the banking sector from regulation. The discrepancy appears to be due in part to sloppy voting by Sanders, and in part to Gramm's legislative guile.


"No one has a stronger record on reforming Wall Street and breaking up too-big-to-fail banks than Senator Sanders," said Warren Gunnels, senior policy adviser to Sanders. "He strongly spoke against repealing Glass-Steagall because he was afraid that it could cause a financial crisis like the one we saw in 2008. And he's going to do everything possible to break up the too-big-to-fail banks."

When Sanders voted for the House version of the CFMA in October 2000, the bill was not yet a total debacle for Wall Street accountability advocates. The legislative text Sanders supported was clearly designed to curtail regulatory oversight. The GOP-authored bill was crafted as a response to a proposal from ex-Commodity Futures Trading Commission Chair Brooksley Born to ramp up oversight of derivatives. But the version Sanders initially voted for was more benign than the final, Gramm-authored version, and it didn't draw any of the protests that the 1999 repeal of Glass-Steagall did. In October 2000, the bill passed the House by a vote of 377 to 4 (51 members didn't vote), and then sat on the shelf for weeks.

But in December, Gramm -- after coordinating with top Clinton administration officials -- added much harder-edged deregulatory language to the bill, then attached the entire package to a must-pass 11,000-page bill funding the entire federal government. After Gramm's workshopping, the legislation included new language saying the federal government "shall not exercise regulatory authority with respect to, a covered swap agreement offered, entered into, or provided by a bank." That ended all government oversight of derivatives purchased or traded by banks. He also created the so-called "Enron Loophole," which barred federal oversight of energy trading on electronic platforms.


This was an era in which voting against funding the federal government was considered a major governance faux pas. The bill sailed through both chambers of Congress, with few lawmakers even aware of the major new deregulatory changes."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-wall-street_5617f634e4b0dbb8000e5a58

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Just how dishonest is Clinton attack on Sanders re: Commodity Futures Modernization Act? (Original Post) EdwardBernays Jan 2016 OP
He didn't read it. Not very good spin. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #1
Nope. Agschmid Jan 2016 #3
Apparently you didn't read the OP. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #5
Yes, I did. He should have read it before voting on it. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #8
Did Sanders say he didn't read it? merrily Jan 2016 #13
It was altered by Gramm afterwards and then became part of a must pass 11,000 page bill funding Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #16
Hello There! Bernie Having His Positions/History MISREPRESENTED Ad Infinitum By Clinton Inc. CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #19
You totally missed the point. But, you knew that. See Reply 6. merrily Jan 2016 #7
I checked out six. So he supported it because Clinton did. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #9
No, you didn't check out six. You didn't have time to look at all those links and everything to merrily Jan 2016 #11
lol EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #10
the Clinton administration FOUGHT for it..... virtualobserver Jan 2016 #12
It wasn't only the length. They folded it into several appropriations bills and rammed it through. merrily Jan 2016 #15
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #2
This attack of Clinton's was intensely deceptive kenfrequed Jan 2016 #4
Very dishonest and incomplete--including not mentioning how hard Bill Clinton pushed for it merrily Jan 2016 #6
And President Bill Clinton signed the bill... TheProgressive Jan 2016 #14
signed and EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #17
Wait. Failure to oppose signature Clinton de-regulation is now Sanders' big weakness? DirkGently Jan 2016 #18
"Sanders failure... EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #20
Excellent op jonestonesusa Jan 2016 #21
K&R nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #22
Her entire campaign is based on lying and misrepresenting Bernblu Jan 2016 #23
kick and thanks n/t slipslidingaway Jan 2016 #24
Excellent post!nt m-lekktor Jan 2016 #25

Uncle Joe

(58,328 posts)
5. Apparently you didn't read the OP.
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:42 PM
Jan 2016


When Sanders voted for the House version of the CFMA in October 2000, the bill was not yet a total debacle for Wall Street accountability advocates. The legislative text Sanders supported was clearly designed to curtail regulatory oversight. The GOP-authored bill was crafted as a response to a proposal from ex-Commodity Futures Trading Commission Chair Brooksley Born to ramp up oversight of derivatives. But the version Sanders initially voted for was more benign than the final, Gramm-authored version, and it didn't draw any of the protests that the 1999 repeal of Glass-Steagall did. In October 2000, the bill passed the House by a vote of 377 to 4 (51 members didn't vote), and then sat on the shelf for weeks.

But in December, Gramm -- after coordinating with top Clinton administration officials -- added much harder-edged deregulatory language to the bill, then attached the entire package to a must-pass 11,000-page bill funding the entire federal government. After Gramm's workshopping, the legislation included new language saying the federal government "shall not exercise regulatory authority with respect to, a covered swap agreement offered, entered into, or provided by a bank." That ended all government oversight of derivatives purchased or traded by banks. He also created the so-called "Enron Loophole," which barred federal oversight of energy trading on electronic platforms.


 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
8. Yes, I did. He should have read it before voting on it.
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:47 PM
Jan 2016

Simple stuff. I love the "he was forced to" the op brings. Truly hilarious and shows an even worse side to Sanders than "I didn't read it."

Uncle Joe

(58,328 posts)
16. It was altered by Gramm afterwards and then became part of a must pass 11,000 page bill funding
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:58 PM
Jan 2016

the entire government, Bernie is far more conscientious and responsible to the people than the Republicans; so willing to shut down the entire government just because they didn't get their way on an issue.



But in December, Gramm -- after coordinating with top Clinton administration officials -- added much harder-edged deregulatory language to the bill, then attached the entire package to a must-pass 11,000-page bill funding the entire federal government. After Gramm's workshopping, the legislation included new language saying the federal government "shall not exercise regulatory authority with respect to, a covered swap agreement offered, entered into, or provided by a bank." That ended all government oversight of derivatives purchased or traded by banks. He also created the so-called "Enron Loophole," which barred federal oversight of energy trading on electronic platforms.


CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
19. Hello There! Bernie Having His Positions/History MISREPRESENTED Ad Infinitum By Clinton Inc.
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 02:15 PM
Jan 2016

We Shall Overcome! In Iowa, New Hampshire... Maybe even S. Carolina! Can't wait!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
7. You totally missed the point. But, you knew that. See Reply 6.
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:45 PM
Jan 2016

BTW, kindly link us to something with Sanders' saying he didn't read it.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
9. I checked out six. So he supported it because Clinton did.
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:47 PM
Jan 2016

These are the arguments that come out of the spin room. lol.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
11. No, you didn't check out six. You didn't have time to look at all those links and everything to
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:48 PM
Jan 2016

which they linked. Please don't do that.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
10. lol
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:48 PM
Jan 2016

That's all you've got?

Hillary didn't read the Iraq war WMD report, and still voted to attack Iraq:

Among those who later admitted to not reading the full report were Democratic Sens. Hillary Clinton, John Edwards and Chris Dodd, and Republican Sens. Sam Brownback and John McCain. All of them voted in favor of the war resolution, and all later ran for their respective party’s 2008 presidential nomination.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/01/us-intelligence-on-wmds-in-iraq/

That was at the HEIGHT of the Iraq War buildup, and after NOT reading it she said:

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members...

It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well, effects American security."

Sanders has ONE pro-Wall St vote in his career, and it was passed as part of a government omnibus bill that everyone voted for, as that was how the government used to work. On top of THAT, it was during the Bush V Gore insanity in Florida, and was being lobbied for by the President, and leader of Democratic party, Hillary's husband.,. AND the language in question was snuck in as part of a ENORMOUS BILL and at the last minute.

But sure, yes, he should have read a 11,000 page bill... but Hillary couldn't bother to read less than 100 in her rush to war in Iraq.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
12. the Clinton administration FOUGHT for it.....
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:49 PM
Jan 2016

Bernie voted for an 11,000 page complex Consolidated Appropriations bill to fund the government that had veto-proof support.

must be Bernie's fault.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
15. It wasn't only the length. They folded it into several appropriations bills and rammed it through.
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:52 PM
Jan 2016

This is bs--and notice how no one mentions Bubba's lobbying hard for the bill so he could later claim a so-called veto proof majority. So dishonest!

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
4. This attack of Clinton's was intensely deceptive
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:42 PM
Jan 2016

Had there been on good thing in that funding bill she would be going after him for that.

The massive deregulation was negotated between the Clinton White House and Senator Gramm.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
18. Wait. Failure to oppose signature Clinton de-regulation is now Sanders' big weakness?
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 02:10 PM
Jan 2016

"Look at the dummy who didn't stand up to Bill Clinton's terrible de-regulation policies well enough"

... is Hillary Clinton's argument?


So the conclusion is to be that Hillary Clinton's opponent cannot be trusted to oppose her husband Bill Clinton's terribly ill-advised trust of the financial and banking industries as well as she will?

I'd like to see her explore her contempt for the Clinton administration's wildly dangerous de-regulatory policies further.

Much further.

Please proceed, Ms. Clinton.




EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
20. "Sanders failure...
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 02:29 PM
Jan 2016

... to stand up Bill Clinton's destructive fiscal policies which caused the 2008 financial crisis are a huge sign of his corruption. Vote Clinton."

jonestonesusa

(880 posts)
21. Excellent op
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 01:38 AM
Jan 2016

Very relevant context for responding to HRC's little debating point that her staffers managed to dredge up for the cameras. One candidate and her family takes in millions from Wall Street on the regular, another candidate is fully funded in this race by small donors but voted for an omnibus funding bill in the 1990s with deregulatory language. Kind of a no brainer which one is more corporate friendly.

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