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Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:06 PM Jan 2016

"It will be difficult. . . but, I will maintain that vision and fight for it."

"I believe healthcare is a right for all people; it will be politically difficult to achieve, but I will maintain that vision and fight for it."

~ Bernie Sanders


This is why. You want to understand why people will vote for Bernie? This is why.
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Uncle Joe

(58,300 posts)
2. The ludicrous argument that this somehow puts the ACA in peril has no logical basis,
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:10 PM
Jan 2016

either Bernie is successful and we get a much superior Medicare for all law or he's not and the existing ACA, Medicaid and CHIP programs stay in effect.


I don't see a downside.

Thanks for the thread, Ed Suspicious.

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
3. If ISIS kidnapped 30,000 Americans to kill them, would America sit on it's hands and do nothing?
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:39 PM
Jan 2016

No way.

Would it be easy to rescue them? Probably not. In fact, it might be very difficult and cost a lot of money and wonderful American military lives. But I know, as sure as the sun rises, America would fight it's heart out to save those fellow Americans.

30 million Americans don't have healthcare coverage. 0.1% of them or 30,000 are going to die in 2016 because of that. Getting single payer is really hard - probably as hard as fighting ISIS. Politically, it's even harder than fighting ISIS.

ISIS sympathizers killed 14 in California. Media and the country got bent out of shape as they should. But we're collectively pretty silent on the 30,000 that won't be with us next year.

To have this going on for so long, it seems over the top for me to say it but it strikes me like political genocide. Because we don't get to see these people die on the evening news, they don't seem to matter as much. But it bothers me.

Even though it's very tough, Bernie is willing to fight for all 30,000 who are going to die this year because they do not have healthcare coverage. And Hillary isn't - she's going for the easier "save a few thousand while the rest die because it's too hard for me".

Why do we get so upset about the 14 and not the 30,000? WHY!!!

I'm sorry for sounding like a broken record on this. It upsets me. It just doesn't make any sense. I'll never understand it or accept it.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
4. This is a BRILLIANT analogy to put things in perspective.
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 03:34 PM
Jan 2016

I highly support you in repeating it like a broken record, where ever you go.

azmom

(5,208 posts)
8. It doesn't make sense at all. All we see on TV
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 11:43 AM
Jan 2016

is propaganda. I love that Bernie is also speaking out about our media.

lostnfound

(16,162 posts)
6. JFK set out to get to the moon. Years after he died, it happened
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 11:24 AM
Jan 2016

But people credit him for proclaiming the VISION.

Do people think if something can't get done in a four year term then it's not worth talking about? How stupid - and how "Wall Street whipped - we are.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
7. You are exactly right. And truth be known; the engineers begged Kennedy not to say what he did.
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 11:33 AM
Jan 2016

Because at the time no one had any idea how to get a man to the moon and back.

But there was a philosophy Kennedy was relying on... not "how can we?" but "why can't we?" The engineers were tasked with finding out why we couldn't, and then overcoming those problems one by one.

It worked then... it can work again.

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