Voting with your head, not your heart?

[last1standing]

“One day we will learn that the heart can never be totally right if the head is totally wrong. Only through the bringing together of head and heart—intelligence and goodness—shall man rise to a fulfillment of his true nature.” - Martin Luther King, Jr. (h/t Luminous Animal)

Yesterday, Hillary Clinton implored the people of this nation to vote with their heads, not their hearts and that is a shame.

It's a shame because Hillary is telling America to stop dreaming of a better future for our children.

It's a shame because she's telling us to succumb to our fears and ignore our hopes.

It's a shame because she is telling us to take what we can get and not ask for more.

In 1996 her husband asked for four more years to build a bridge to the 21st century.

Barack Obama offered Hope and Change.

Hillary Clinton offers scraps and tells us we're lucky to get them.

No thanks, Hillary. I'll vote with my heart and my head and my conscience. All of them tell me that you are not fit to be President of the United States of America.

[PatrickforO]

1. Well written.

[lewebley3]

50. The people who voting Sander are the same ones that put Bush in office.

[Kelvin Mace]

52. The Supreme Court is voting for Sanders?

Does Scalia know?

[bvar22]

60. Thank You.

!

[Kelvin Mace]

66. Yeah, getting a little tired of that Zombie Lie

Gore won, the Scalia 5 invalidated the results and appointed Bush.

[dixiegrrrrl]

54. totally agree..wonderfully said.

Perfect quote in response to Hillary's comment.

[AllTooEasy]

55. I can't find this alleged quote anywhere. Is this more paraphrasing bullshit?

I've searched all over the net for this quote, but can't find it. Please submit.

[AllTooEasy]

56. I can't find this alleged quote anywhere. Is this more paraphrasing bullshit?

I've searched all over the net for this quote, but can't find it. Please submit her exact words before I go ballistic(verbally) on her.

Thanks.

[PatrickforO]

58. Sorry, looks like David Axlerod coined the term. Here's the link I found.

http://www.wyff4.com/national/axelrod-look-for-candidates-to-get-desperate/37397364

Here's the specific quote from the article: "The Clinton campaign has begun airing a clever ad featuring provocative snippets of Trump, Cruz and the GOPers, and concluding that only Clinton can stop them. The subtext to wavering Democrats: Vote with your head, not your heart; Sanders equals a Trump-led America."

[Armstead]

2. Head and heart are not mutually exclusive. "We all do better when we ALL do better."

[bvar22]

70. "We all do better when we ALL do better."

One of my favorite quotes.
Paul Wellstone used it in his last campaign before he was killed,
but I don't know if he coined it.

[font size=5 color=firebrick][center]"When we all do better,
we ALL do better."
[center]
--- Paul Wellstone[/center]
[/font]

[morningfog]

3. She knows her favorables are far under water, and

she isn't trusted. She knows that is a losing combination. She wants us to vote for someone we don't like and don't trust because it makes more sense to her.

[AlbertCat]

19. She knows her favorables are far under water, and she isn't trusted.

Which is why voting with your head is voting for Sanders.

[merrily]

37. It doesn't have to make sense to her. She wants to be the first woman President, period.

[madokie]

42. Thats it in a nut shell

f* everything else all she wants if to be the first woman President. All the governing will work itself out she thinks. sad day for america that she is where she is in this election cycle.

[demwing]

4. Well, my heart tells me to vote for the first woman president

but my head tells me that it's in our nation's economic and social best interests to vote for Bernie.

To think that a vote for Bernie is a vote not well thought out is an insult. Clinton should think carefully before making such emotional requests.

[roguevalley]

11. I hear you, demwing. I hear you.

[merrily]

38. +1 I wanted to vote for the first woman President this time, too.

And I would have, if Elizabeth Warren had run, instead of Bernie.

I've admired Bernie for years, but I never dreamt he would run for President. I was skeptical when he said he was exploring a run. I was over the moon when he announced.

[mountain grammy]

68. Me too!

[NorthCarolina]

69. This election isn't "the last chance" for the first woman President by a long shot.

There are others who are well positioned to pick up the gauntlet from a President Sanders and carry on with the legacy of strength and compassion.

For example:

[Political_Junkie]

71. +1

I'll wait. Thank you.

[JonLeibowitz]

77. I'm waiting for Her too.

[Luminous Animal]

5. No problem using both….

MLK Jr,

“One day we will learn that the heart can never be totally right if the head is totally wrong. Only through the bringing together of head and heart—intelligence and goodness—shall man rise to a fulfillment of his true nature.”

[last1standing]

7. That is beautiful.

Do you mind if I edit the OP with that?

[Luminous Animal]

8. Of course! Edit away!

[last1standing]

9. Thank you.

I've edited the OP with a hat tip to you. I could not imagine a more appropriate quotation at this point.

[Cassiopeia]

6. I'm doing just that

I'm voting for Bernie. I'm voting for us. I'm voting for change.

The condition of my heart has nothing to do with it.

[840high]

35. Thank you

[Still In Wisconsin]

10. She, and her people, are REALLY bad at campaigning.

This is easily the WORST (as in least effective) campaign line I have ever heard or read.

[ybbor]

20. Next she be in a tank with a helmet on her head

My favorite way to blow a campaign.

[murielm99]

25. Just one more mention of the latest meme:

Oh, Hillary is so bad at campaigning.

If you repeat it often enough, people will start to believe it, eh?

Well, maybe a few people on the Internet, but not the rest of us.

Head and heart? Why not go all in and add the rest of the 4H motto, hands and health? Or maybe I have this post confused with some other cliche? Oh, well.

You people really are funny.

[840high]

29. More than just a few

people think she is bad at campaigning.

[murielm99]

30. More than a few Internet haters?

Yawn.

[Art_from_Ark]

39. I've met Hillary in person

She was with Bill at a small airport in Springdale, Arkansas, just after Bill had become president. This was in August 1993. Air Force One landed within sight of those of us who had gathered outside the terminal to wish them well. We could see them get out of the plane. Bill came right over to us (probably about 75 locals) and started shaking everyone's hand. However, Hillary acted like she didn't want anything to do with us local yokels. That impression has grown even stronger over the years.

[murielm99]

40. I've met her, too.

I did not find her to be like that at all.

[Art_from_Ark]

41. Did you meet her at an invitation-only event

Or did you meet her as just another face in the crowd?

I have a VHS-format video that I took of that meeting with Bill and Hillary. I have been debating whether I should try to convert it into an Internet-friendly format and post it on the Internet. So far, I have declined to do that.

But think about this--
When Hillary was on the board at Wal-Mart, I was a student at the University of Arkansas at Fayetteville. Most of my professors were fairly liberal. Many of them remarked that her serving on the Wal-Mart board was the "best of both worlds-- Hillary got to rub elbows with the richest man in America (Sam Walton), while Sam Walton had a nearly direct connection to the Governor (Bill Clinton)".

And Hillary got a job with the Rose Law Firm defending corporate clients versus little people around the time that I was joining the Arkansas Democratic Party. She defended Arkansas utility companies against ACORN and residential rate-payers, for crying out loud. And she won that case. And that meant that people like my family couldn't get a break on our utility rates, thanks to Hillary's claims in court that giving residential rate-payers a break on their utility rates amounted to an "unconstitutional taking of property".

[Still In Wisconsin]

44. OK you're right... her considerable skills are no doubt responsible

for her surging poll numbers.

[last1standing]

62. You do realize that Hillary was the first to talk about the head and heart, right?

So you're actually sneering at the Sainted Centrist in your post.

But then consistency has never been a big deal in your faction. Opinions and facts can change by the minute depending on the crowd and the latest poll.

[murielm99]

65. So what?

The Sanders people are the ones who have adopted it as a meme.

If a miracle happens, and Bernie gets the nomination, where will your heart be when he loses as badly as McGovern or Mondale? The repubbies are not bringing out their big guns against him yet. They want to run against him. They know he will lose. Trump has said he wants to run against Bernie. Other prominent conservatives have told people to support Bernie.

Where will your heart be if we lose the Supreme Court for a generation? I don't want to see that happen to my children and grandchildren. If women lose abortion rights, or they are so curtailed that they go back to coat hangers and crochet hooks? Where will your heart be if the ACA is repealed, and the elderly and the young start dying from lack of health insurance? Where will your heart be if Medicare is bankrupted and Social Security gutted?

Where will your heart be if no one can earn a decent living, because the whole country is right to work and unions are flattened? Where will your heart be if Citizens United is expanded and the rich pay even fewer taxes?

Where will your heart be if Trump is elected? The chances are good it won't even be beating any more. Trump is the most likely to cause a nuclear holocaust. Some tinpot dictator will make fun of his hair, and it will be bombs away.

Bernie as the nominee would be an unmitigated disaster.

And if you try to turn my post around and say all those things are true of Hillary, that means you have not looked at her record. You are only slinging mud and projecting. Hillary will win. Bernie will lose so badly, if nominate, that we will be headed to the dark ages in a hurry.

Consistency? The only consistency in the Bernie crowd is name-calling, like "oligarch" "third way "mouthpiece."

Polls? You only like them if they favor Bernie. You are a waste of my time, and everyone else's, too.

[last1standing]

67. "So what?" The general response of a Team Weathervane supporter.

Team Weathervane doesn't worry about silly facts or policies that could actually help the 99%. The only concern is that they get the Sainted Centrist into the Whitehouse because it's her turn!!!!!!!!

[murielm99]

74. You are the ones who are acting as though your candidate is a saint.

Projection? Just as I predicted.

Go ahead and ignore reality. I will still be here when it bites you in the butt.

[karynnj]

57. exactly - it implicitly assumes that you have not won their hearts

In fact, I have seen it more used AGAINST a candidate that they were not the one people fell in love with, but the one they settled for thinking them more electable but without the passion. In fact, I have never seen a race where that REALLY happened. (In 2004, it wasn't that huge numbers of people passionately for Dean, who voted for Kerry in the early primaries -- it was that there were far more people impressed by Kerry than by Dean in Iowa before the caucus started. Only then did he get any positive national coverage.)

[WillyT]

12. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!

[Go Vols]

13. I truly believe

that Bernie is representing people that haven't had needs addressed in years.

Edit: I remember a middle class and real D's.

[malokvale77]

14. My head and heart are in-sync on this.

[DaveT]

15. Ronald Reagan was wrong about almost everything

but he was the most successful Republican politician in the history of their party, because he always pushed optimism.

This is not exactly an esoteric or complex idea. It is at the heart of Reagan idolatry -- the sunny optimism of a guy who believed that everything is possible and it is always Morning in America. Hillary is taking the exact opposite approach.


It really is breathtaking -- Vote for me because the world sucks and I can handle the suckage better than the other guy.


I cannot believe her campaign has such a Tin Ear.

[Qutzupalotl]

18. It's funny how they complain that Sanders is negative

when he is the visionary with solutions.

[Uncle Joe]

16. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, last1standing.

[Motown_Johnny]

17. Rationalize doing the wrong thing. Ignore the angels of our better nature.

MY TURN!!!!!

[Joe Shlabotnik]

21. K & R n/t

[Kall]

22. Wrong message

The Clinton campaign should have developed a platform that appealed to the heart. Voting with the head, rather than the heart, is why the Democratic Party has been on a 30-year march to the right in the biannual goal of preventing the people even further to the right, who then proceed to move further right. It's self-defeating.

Her support was always a mile wide and an inch deep. We're seeing that now.

[99th_Monkey]

23. Kickity Rec. n/t

[artislife]

24. I'm with HIM! nt

[BigBearJohn]

26. Very well said.

I think Hillary is road weary. That's why she's against Bernie's health plan.
She failed, therefor, Bernie has to fail. Accept mediocrity. At least that's SOMETHING.
She has run out of gas and just wants to coast.
Throw the dog a bone and be thankful for it.

[NRaleighLiberal]

27. My heart bleeds for all of those being left behind, all of those who have been forgotten

in the race for the very few to make obscene profits, or all of those innocents killed due to poorly thought out examples of our so-called might.

So my heart tells my head to think about what is most appropriate for my vote....and So it is Bernie for me.

[pa28]

28. STFU and row is not a winning platform.

Scolding optimists and idealists will not get you elected president in this country.

[retrowire]

49. exactly. nt

[Festivito]

31. Head and heart, like two much loved friends in your home at the same time.

You would never ignore the one and only pay attention to the other.

Paraphrased from Kahlil Gibran's "The Prophet"

[valerief]

32. "No, we can't! No, we can't!" I'm so tired of that message.

We're good enough, we're smart enough, and doggone-it, people like us. We CAN do it!

[AmBlue]

33. To get to the moon, one must aim for the stars.

That's the truth, as my mama tells it. Every good negotiator knows you always aim for the greatest goal you want to achieve, even though it might be more than what you'd settle for ultimately. But first you must take AIM.

[Ken Burch]

46. Your quote reminds me of my favorite Oscar Wilde quote:

"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars"

[Prism]

34. Despair and Status Quo!

Clinton's becoming this weird sort of anti-Obama.

Have we ever seen this from a Democratic candidate before?

"No, but seriously folks, we can't do anything."

Why is she even running?

[bigwillq]

36. My heart and head say HillNo (nt)

[Katashi_itto]

43. K&R! Down with 3rd Way.

[Art_from_Ark]

45. I'm voting with both

Bernie's one of the best presidential candidates to come along in my lifetime.

[betsuni]

47. I'm voting with my vagina.

Yesterday, Hillary Clinton implored the people of this nation to vote with their heads, not their vaginas and that is a shame.

It's a shame because Hillary is telling America to stop dreaming of a better future for our vaginas.

It's a shame because she's telling our vaginas to succumb to fears and ignore our vagina hopes.

It's a shame because she is telling vaginas to take what they can get and not ask for more.

Hillary Clinton offers scraps to vaginas and tells them we're luck to get them.

No thanks, Hillary. I'll vote with my vagina.

[Political_Junkie]

73. Thank you!

nt

[Donkees]

48. "It's Official -- Bernie Sanders Has Overtaken Hillary Clinton In the Hearts and Minds of Democrats"

It's Official -- Bernie Sanders Has Overtaken Hillary Clinton In the Hearts and Minds of Democrats
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/its-official-bernie-sande_b_7660226.html

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

51. It's the oft used plea to vote for "not as bad" and "settle for less" of the centrists.

No sale.

[earthside]

53. It's kind of sad.

We can't do that.

Pragmatic.

Reasonable.

Vote with you head.

Don't mention my husband.

I've been there.

Too contentious.

... Boring and tedious.

This is what the Democratic Party wants?
What happened to 'Hope and Change'?

Really, we can do a lot better than Mrs. Clinton.

[fbc]

59. Yeah, Hillary "Republicans are my biggest enemy" will get things done!

I shudder to think about the compromises she will be willing to make to get something passed if she has any downtime between her impeachment hearings.

[lark]

61. Barack Obama???

Seriously? Clinton is way more Obama than Sanders. Obama talks from the left, but governs from the right most of the time. A Clinton presidency would be much the same, if not mostly identical. So, are you saying Obama isn't fit to be president because he champions policies similar to Clinton? If so, I disagree.

Clinton isn't my 1st choice as president, Sanders is. It's even looking like Bernie has a chance to win the primaries, whoohoo! However, if he doesn't and she wins the nomination, what will you do? If it's sitting out the election, thanks for electing a RW radical Repug as president. I mean a real Repug who will try to outlaw and even criminalize abortion, end healthcare for most aka ACA, give more tax breaks to the 1%, implement TPP in the worst possible way, give even bigger tax breaks to companies that move their work forces out of country, start a war with Iran ASAP, erode union power even further, and worst of all put Scalia/Alito/Thomas clones on SCOTUS. Hillary woulf do none of these very bad things.

As for me, I will vote for the D.

[last1standing]

63. I wasn't a big fan of Obama's policies but he ran on "hope" and "change."

He spoke to our better selves and that was a good motivator. Hillary speaks to our fears and greed.

[Utopian Leftist]

64. That's a good point.

I have heard it said that in American politics it is usually the more optimistic candidate who wins.

That makes sense because people know intuitively, that if one starts a bargaining position too low, (such as Hillary only asking for a minimum wage of $12 per hour instead of $15) that you throw away any potential bargaining power you might have otherwise had, and end up with less than you need. So the voters choose the candidate who has their sights and aims set higher . . . in this case, that's clearly Bernie!

[Ilsa]

72. This part:

Hillary Clinton offers scraps and tells us we're lucky to get them. 

That pretty well sums it up, doesn't it? But along with that, we get to listen to Chelsea tell us that money doesn't mean that much to her. I wonder how many homeless people she stopped to help find shelter, or does her chauffeur make certain she doesn't see them?

[mhatrw]

75. My head tells me that if Hillary wins the Democratic nomination, the Republicans

will control the White House, Senate, House and Supreme Court for the foreseeable future.

In terms of riling up the Republican base while leaving the Democratic base stone cold, Democrats could not possibly nominate a worse candidate.

[onecaliberal]

76. When I vote for Bernie, I am doing both.

Voting for anyone else is voting for the status quo, for continuing to starve children, to leave the 26 million without healthcare to die. To screw over the sick and injured they used as cannon fodder in the war. To line the pockets of WallStreet, and every other big Corp while our kids can't afford college, our infrastructure crumbles, our jobs go to China for 2 bucks per day. I cannot in good conscience vote to continue these things. I'm done!