2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSanders: I have a ‘good chance to win this election’
Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders on Sunday said recent polls showing him leading in New Hampshire and closing the gap in Iowa give him confidence that he can win the White House in 2016.
We are now ahead in New Hampshire, he added. I think were closing the gap in Iowa. I think we have a good chance to win both those states. I think we have a good chance to win this election.
Sanders chalked up his success to the publics dissatisfaction with politics as usual.
I think the reason that we are going to win is that people are sick and tired of status quo politics and economics, he said. They want a president who has the guts to stand up to the billionaire class and start representing working families.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/266195-sanders-i-have-a-good-chance-to-win-this-election
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Sounds like new news to him.
Weird.
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)He's always been conservative when looking at poll numbers. For much of the last month he's been saying that New Hampshire was 'close' despite him being ahead in a majority of the polls.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)To not over estimate success.
Uncle Joe
(58,355 posts)Thanks for the thread, BigBearJohn.
deathrind
(1,786 posts)The obvious bias the DNC has for HRC and the fact that many people are tired of the family dynasties has turned many voters off to her and Trump is absolutely turning the Republican Party inside out and making them look like fools. This leaves BS in a very strong position to win the GE should he get the nomination.
Biden should have jumped in with both feet, he could have walked away with it.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)Especially when he point-blank said, "I am no populist." I think people this time around are truly voting on the issues. The reason Sanders has been so popular is because he addresses the issues we voters want addressed. I believe Biden would have been more-of-the-same, but in a more pleasant format than Hillary!
Sam
zentrum
(9,865 posts)
...over the years too, but he waffles.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)even though Obama has done a good job in many respects. Voters are very unhappy with the economic imbalance, the disparity in wealth and the lack of jobs. Obama made progress but I don't think Biden can defend it well enough. The crowds roar when Bernie says he will hire no Goldman Sachs folks in his White House. The Obama administration is to full of those types.
b) Biden is too close to the bankers and credit card companies and would have to defend the 2005 revision of the Bankruptcy Act which he helped get passed. He is close to Clinton on a number of issues that are causing her problems. How did he vote on the Iraq War? On the Patriot Act? The list of problems is long.
The Times They Are Achangin'
deathrind
(1,786 posts)Some middle ground for people to come together on as opposed to polarized choices we have.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Bernie still would be a more attractive candidate.
Bernie is just an amazing candidate. Biden would have looked pale compared to Bernie.
The problem is that our economy, even without the 2008 recession, has changed fundamentally for working people.
The relationship between working people and their bosses and workplaces is less secure, far riskier than in any time that I can remember.
Computerization of the workplace means that people, labor is far more fungible than it used to be.
I've done a lot of different kinds of jobs in my life. When I was in college, one of my jobs was in a book store. I kept track of the inventory of books (college bookstores have a lot of inventory changes) in a large notebook with many columns. My knowledge of the names of the authors and titles of the textbooks made me more efficient and insured that I had job security even though my pay was low and my job not all that important. Today, that job would be done by a computer, and the knowledge of the person inputting the information, that individual's specific and learned, memorized knowledge of the titles and authors is of very little if any value.
Thus, the person who enters the information into the computer can be replaced or exchanged and the boss may not even notice that a new person is doing the job.
That makes a huge difference in terms of job security, in terms of meaning and gratification and dignity in the workplace. And it means that our economy has to change and our society has to change.
Bernie is suggesting that some of that job security that we have lost be supplemented by government programs. Sounds good to me. No one else is even acknowledging the problem. And I don't even think that Bernie is aware that is proposals respond to that problem in the relationship between workers (and not just laborers or factory workers but all working people) and their jobs and workplaces.
Bernie is simply the candidate of this time.
That's the way I see it. If Biden had ideas that responded to this change in our society and in our relationships with work, then he would have already presented them. Obama would have presented them. But they haven't. They aren't thinking in this way because as Obama pointed out in his State of the Union speech, this specific problem is not on the radar of members of Congress or people in the beltway because they are still living and working in the old paradigm. They keep their jobs longer than ordinary, average Americans.
And that is an odd fact. Because the fact of elections should mean that members of Congress, for example, enjoy LESS job security than most Americans. It's kind of written into the Constitution. But the fact is that today so many jobs are so insecure that facing elections every two to six years is relative job security.
I have a friend who works here for a couple of days and then there for a couple of days. That is no longer all that unusual. He is highly skilled in his field.
Farmers still can work on their farms all their lives. But even teachers face the threat of lay-offs and firings. The working world is very, very insecure. Bernie's ideas are tuned into that new reality. The ideas of universal health insurance as a right and free college tuition at state schools to name two examples, respond to the insecurity of Americans today.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)brooklynite
(94,513 posts)kjones
(1,053 posts)then I did some sort of snort laugh and felt kinda bad.
Poor guy.
Chin up buddy, you're only 53.
O'Malley 2024
#GiveMeTime
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Republicans are the ones who want things to change.
Ignoring that Republicans are convinced they are living under a Muslim, gun grabbing, racist dictator and they are showing up ARMED to vote just in case the New Black Panthers try to stop them.
Duckfan
(1,268 posts)And that's a good thing.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)I didn't purposefully watch it. I happened the walk through the room when they said this, and I immediately cursed at my television as I walked through the room.
I can't watch mainstream media. Their attempts at brainwashing are so very fucking obvious and very infuriating.
Bernie was CONFIDENTLY saying he could win this election. He certainly was not gloating. That's not his style, and ALL politicians say they can win. Leave it to MSM to try and get people to view Sanders negatively though.