2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumRove wants a Democratic establishment candidate
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Clinton or Biden or Kerry. There might be an order of preference but the key requirement is an establishment candidate.
He knows full well the Democratic establishment candidates and their supporters will use his actions to argue that it's "proof" that Bernie is who the Republicans want to run against.
People that argue that any D will win in the general election are clueless.
Note: Do you see the tsunami on the horizon if you run an Democratic Establishment Candidate against a Republican Outsider?
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)And all the convoluted reasoning by Sanders supporters doesn't make it less so. They want to run against Sanders.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)because in reality, a Hillary nomination will ensure that the GOP shows up in droves. Let's be honest, Hillary is the most despised politician around. Straight up. You know it, we know it. She's underwater in her favorability and has been since this race began, it's gone no where. Yet reality is that Republicans helped elect Bernie. They voted for him. His crossover appeal is exactly what Hillary doesn't have and this is why he does better in a GE against a Republican nominee. He doesn't have the baggage Hillary has either.
emulatorloo
(44,072 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)I don't. You need it to win the white house and I hate to tell you but Republicans are quite fed up with their party, many of them are. MANY. They're pissed off and not the sort of pissed off who back Trump either. Pissed because the party left them. Meet the Ike wing who is very much alive and supports Bernie.
We've been through this on here a million times. I'm sure you've read it, maybe not and in that case here you go.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/6/22/1395700/-Republicans-for-Bernie-Sanders
emulatorloo
(44,072 posts)I've talked to many old school republicans of who are disgusted with the Republican Party. Some of them are my neigbors, others when I knocked doors. Lots of distaste, for example, for the war on women and the wrongheaded embrace of tea-party extremism. I believe most of them did indeed vote Democratic in '08 and '12. I hope I had a part in that decision.
But I am never going to become a Karl Rove fan.
That motherfucker can run as many disingenuous ads misappropriating Bernie's message as he wants.
Doesn't change the fact that he's a lying manipulative asshole and always will be.
I hold him personally responsible for lying George W Bush into the presidency and for every act of that vile administration.
The enemy of my 'enemy' is not my friend.
Hope you have a great day.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)I'll keep him around for the comedy though XD
I hear he's out in Oregon helping at a refuge lol
emulatorloo
(44,072 posts)Great pic and
I ass-umed Militia Boy was talking about Koch bros, as they helped out his daddy w "Americans For Prosperity" propaganda in Nevada. But maybe American Crossroads can run a few ads for 'the cause' too.
emulatorloo
(44,072 posts)He was one of the most solid liberal Senators we've had, a great partner and ally of Senator Kennedy.
Rove is a fuck-head. He needs to get the hell out of the democratic primary process.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)in the general election.
emulatorloo
(44,072 posts)I will just say that ideologically I am close to both Bernie and Kerry.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)remember democrats wanted to run against Reagan, sometimes getting what you want may end up biting you in the ass.