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HRC refuses to answer whether single-payer would lower health care costs. (Video) (Original Post) antigop Jan 2016 OP
HRC Refuses to tell the truth. Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2016 #1
No Sanders refuses the truth: He does have vote for his health care plan lewebley3 Jan 2016 #10
Get over yourself and quit trolling me. Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2016 #15
She can't answer, her insurance overlords would abandon her in an instant, and she can't have that. onecaliberal Jan 2016 #2
Interview is from PRIOR release of Sanders so-called 'plan' on late Sunday. She talks of riversedge Jan 2016 #3
it doesn't matter. She DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION. nt antigop Jan 2016 #4
She sure did. You just do not like her answer. riversedge Jan 2016 #8
SHE. DID. NOT. ANSWER. THE. QUESTION. Thanks for the kick. nt antigop Jan 2016 #9
That right there... peace13 Jan 2016 #5
Well well......there's this pinebox Jan 2016 #6
Easy: "maybe" Recursion Jan 2016 #7
she gives an answer dsc Jan 2016 #11
SHE. DID. NOT. ANSWER. THE. QUESTION. Thanks for the kick. nt antigop Jan 2016 #13
Yep, that's exactly why other countries have failed so miserably at this. arcane1 Jan 2016 #14
they make tradeoffs dsc Jan 2016 #16
It would make a HUGE difference to those of us with little to no insurance. arcane1 Jan 2016 #17
the cost matters a whole bunch dsc Jan 2016 #18
My employer provides insurance, and I can't afford the copays if I get sick arcane1 Jan 2016 #19
She's the Great Defender of Insurance now. arcane1 Jan 2016 #12
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #20
you're welcome, Uncle Joe. nt antigop Jan 2016 #22
She deflected & launched into her anti-single payer talking points. senz Jan 2016 #21

riversedge

(70,191 posts)
3. Interview is from PRIOR release of Sanders so-called 'plan' on late Sunday. She talks of
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 01:11 PM
Jan 2016

the only plan he had out at that point were the Legislative proposals (which had not been scored by COB-Congressional Budget Office)




State of the Union | Source: CNN

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Hillary Clinton discussed her calls for more sanctions on Iran, her attacks on Bernie Sanders' healthcare views, and her stance on ISIS in an interview with Jake Tapper.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
5. That right there...
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 01:18 PM
Jan 2016

...she is not concerned about Americans spending more than they can afford on health care. Her halting manner here tells me that she is not being truthful. Why do her supporters not demand more from her?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. Easy: "maybe"
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 01:30 PM
Jan 2016

It all depends on the implementation.

If medical provider lobbyists write it, it will cost much, much more than we pay now.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
11. she gives an answer
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 01:55 PM
Jan 2016

and the answer is maybe. To take an example where it most certainly didn't lower costs, Medicare drugs. The only way it will lower costs is if providers are squeezed which means hospitals will close, doctors will leave some areas, and some people will have either less health care or less convenient health care than they do now (others will benefit greatly).

dsc

(52,155 posts)
16. they make tradeoffs
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 02:56 PM
Jan 2016

frankly I don't think they are bad tradeoffs but they are tradeoffs none the less. Canadians do wait longer for some elective procedures than we do. Brits have fewer MRI machines and hospitals per capita than we do. There are many marginal hospitals which might well close under a public system. Unless you make those kinds of decisions, and they are not outlined at all in Bernie's plan, then the cost of a single payer system would be at best only a little lower than what we currently have.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
17. It would make a HUGE difference to those of us with little to no insurance.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 03:01 PM
Jan 2016

Fretting over "cost" means nothing to the people locked out of the system today.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
18. the cost matters a whole bunch
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 03:12 PM
Jan 2016

especially to those of us whose employers currently provide our insurance. There are tradeoffs. We should acknowledge that.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
19. My employer provides insurance, and I can't afford the copays if I get sick
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 03:56 PM
Jan 2016

If "cost" is such a horrid thing, why do we spend more than any other country, and get so much less for it?

Our current system sucks and we can do better.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
12. She's the Great Defender of Insurance now.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 02:12 PM
Jan 2016

Protecting your precious premiums and copays from that evil socialism!!1

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
21. She deflected & launched into her anti-single payer talking points.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 04:19 PM
Jan 2016

She also ridiculed Bernie's having introduced single payer legislation nine times -- as if it were a silly thing to do. For me, it demonstrates his honesty and sincerity; what he says is what he believes. Clinton can never claim that for herself.

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