*"BERNIE BEING CALLED TO TASK IS BULLSHIT" Black Rap/Activist KILLER MIKE On COATES REPARATION ATTAK

[appalachiablue]

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- Michael Render (Killer Mike) and Sen. Bernie Sanders walk in Atlanta where the candidate held a large rally in 2015 -

By Matt Miller, Jan. 20, 2016

On Tuesday, celebrated writer Ta-Nehisi Coates published an article in The Atlantic in which he decried Bernie Sanders for being against "reparations for slavery." In 2014, Coates published a landmark cover story in The Atlantic, "The Case for Reparations." In this week's piece Coates argued that: Unfortunately, Sanders's radicalism has failed in the ancient fight against white supremacy. What he proposes in lieu of reparations—job creation, investment in cities, and free higher education—is well within the Overton window, and his platform on race echoes Democratic orthodoxy.

Today, rapper and political activist Killer Mike—who has endorsed Sanders in one-on-one interviews, and appearances on Colbert—fired back at Coates, defending Sanders' policy.
>Killer Mike's (Mike Render's) comments on Twitter, Jan. 20, 2016:

"I love the writings of @tanehisicoates. I am very curious why every one thinks his critique of Sanders of some kind of death nail".
-"Our current POTUS has NOT been asked about Reparations and he is black. lol".
"If I as a working class African American read and hear Sanders platform. Better pay, end of drug wars, fixing Youth unemployment and more. - "Like continuing to free those folks whom mandatory minimums had essentially given life in jail."
"The truth of my support is I am pro Reparations for any people used and abused like Blacks have been here and other places."
*"Candidate that I think would be more sensitive to the very accomplishable goal, and the other things that can/will help black people is SANDERS."
*"THE FACT THAT BLACKS EVEN HAVE TO JUSTIFY THE CASE FOR REPARATIONS IS SHAMEFUL."

*"THE FACT THAT ONLY ONE CANDIDATE IS BEING CALLED TO TASK IS- BULLSHIT."
"ESPECIALLY WHEN THAT CANDIDATE IS THE ONLY ONE WITH POLICY PROPOSAL THAT DIRECTLY EFFECTS THE BLACK COMMUNITY IF ELECTED."

More: Esquire, 'Killer Mike Defends Bernie Sanders in a Series of Tweets About Slavery, Entering a Public Debate with Ta-Nehisi Coates, http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a41346/killer-mike-ta-nehisi-coates-bernie-sanders/



- Killer Mike has a deep interest in politics as reflected in his music. He introduced Sen. Sanders at the 2016 campaign's successful rally in Atlanta and also met with Bernie to discuss major topics: mass incarceration, declassifying marijuana, single-payer healthcare, eliminating income inequality, and issues of social justice which Mike learned growing up in Atlanta, the town so closely associated with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Andrew Young and other civil rights legends.

[TheBlackAdder]

1. Because one candidate panders, people are being distracted from the real issues of modern society.

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The main issue is that slavery was legal before 1865, so there is no legal standing for descendants. Any form of slavery afterwards could be rewarded a settlement by those who directly perpetrated it, as it would have been illegal. The problem is whether those entities are still in existence or not. But, some are not interested in legal fact.


What we should focus on is institutional racism and income disparity. But, again, if a settlement is something that is sought, it needs to be proven on a case by case basis. And seeing how the American society slowly evolved since 1865, and the setbacks to the African Americans brought on by Booker T. Washington (note: I am a fan of W. E. B. DuBois), this will be difficult to prove. This is akin to how the Jews, Asians and others were quarantined to sections of cities, withheld from banking and various industry.


The only way we will see correction is not by some passive and slow political progress, but by an institutional disruption.

If someone want's slow correction to these institutional norms, it might take another hundred years.


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[appalachiablue]

3. Appreciate the in depth response. I only have time to glance now but will note to read later.

[appalachiablue]

2. Ta-Nehisi Coates Reparations Attack: Black Show Host Asks WHY ONLY BERNIE SANDERS?

- Ta-Nehisi Coates Attacks Sanders on Reparations - The Benjamin Dixon Show.

The Benjamin Dixon Show host shares his perspectives on the recent article by black intellectual Ta-Nehisi Coates that attacks Sen. Bernie Sanders on the subject of Reparations for Slaveyr, but not other Democratic presidential candidates.
Dixon notes that Coates article in The Atlantic was written just after Paul KRUGMAN'S piece that Sen. Sanders plan for single-payer healthcare is too difficult. Dixon discusses the issues at length and states,

"I'M SICK AND TIRED OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY MAKING BERNIE SANDERS JUMP THROUGH HOOPS".

[appalachiablue]

4. During the campaign Bernie has appealed to many black Americans from legislators like

powerful Nina Turner, the former Ohio state senator, Symone Sanders his campaign communications director, Atlanta native, political activist and rapper Michael Render/"Killer Mike" and many others across the country of all backgrounds who are drawn to his inspirational message, courage and plans for building a better future!

~ Rapper Killer Mike's Rousing Introduction for Sen. Sanders at Atlanta Campaign Rally to Full House of Thousands ~

[Uncle Joe]

5. You were right, appalachiablue, that is a good article.

[appalachiablue]

6. Got to keep the Truth alive! Mike's *INTRO/SPEECH* for Bernie in ATLANTA. Terrific speaker!

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-SANDERS ATLANTA CAMPAIGN RALLY- KILLER MIKE'S POWERUL INTRODUCTION OF BERNIE - Bravo!

[appalachiablue]

7. Bernie and Mike at the Crowded, Rousing Campaign Rally in ATLANTA!

[KittyWampus]

8. I guess "killer mike" either didn't read Coates' article or isn't smart enough to understand it.

Because Coates was making a very specific and valid point and killer mike's response totally misses the point.

Kind of embarrassing.

[appalachiablue]

13. "I love the writings of T. Coates", Mike. Your statements about him are untrue and petty.

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And the opinions you expressed are uninformed and ignorant. Widely known and respected, Mike's quite an intelligent, inquisitive person and a talented musician and activist. The rude, offensive remarks, such as 'isn't smart enough' you made are an embarrassment, to you, as you know. And they have no place on this forum.

[KittyWampus]

27. Reading killer mike's own words on Coates' article proves he either didn't read it

or comprehend it.

[appalachiablue]

31. I want you to communicate that to Mike tonight. I'll be waiting for his reply, eagerly. K'ay?

So get to it and post it here. You can do it I know, meaning put your money where your mouth is. And good luck.

[grasswire]

35. what is EMBARRASSING.....

...is your spurious assertion that rapper Killer Mike is unintelligent.

Hard to believe I read that here on DU.

[appalachiablue]

37. Yes it is appalling to read this on DU. And this one is persistent too. No shame.

[Autumn]

9. This right here.

*"THE FACT THAT BLACKS EVEN HAVE TO JUSTIFY THE CASE FOR REPARATIONS IS SHAMEFUL."

*"THE FACT THAT ONLY ONE CANDIDATE IS BEING CALLED TO TASK IS- BULLSHIT."
"ESPECIALLY WHEN THAT CANDIDATE IS THE ONLY ONE WITH POLICY PROPOSAL THAT DIRECTLY EFFECTS THE BLACK COMMUNITY IF ELECTED."

Killer Mike impresses the hell out of me, his grasp of issues is fantastic. I would love to see him in politics.

[appalachiablue]

38. Mike got the essence of this targeted issue with the very strange timing easily.

People are bright, not to be underestimated or thought fools. False manoeuvers can de detected fairly quickly and called out for what they are, obviously. That Mike picked up on this fracas straight up is no surprise. He has good political instincts, high intelligence, is talented and a powerful, motivating speaker who has a Lot going for him. Already an activist, Mike Render would make a dynamic politician I agree.

[Skwmom]

10. Killer Mike is a great activist. He is so much better than the corrupt politicians in DC. n/t

[appalachiablue]

14. Absolutely!

[Skwmom]

15. He should run for office. n/t

[WillyT]

11. K & R !!!

[Beacool]

12. Why is Killer Mike the one AA person trotted out when Sanders needs creds with the AA community?

Hillary could come up with dozens of people, and not just ones she met a few weeks ago.

[Luminous Animal]

16. Because he is an activist for the people. And he is doing a great job. As is Shaun King.

As is Symone Sanders. As is Nina Turner.

[msanthrope]

18. Who? As if any of the persons you named would claim they know better than Coates

regarding reparations.

Have you got quotes from them? You invoke the names of these people as if you think they would disagree with Coates and speak from authority on the subject. Prove what you claim.

[Luminous Animal]

20. As if there is any such thing as AUTHORITY regarding reparations. Obama says it ain't happening.

And so does Hillary. But only Bernie is taken to task?

Where was Coates when Obama so it wasn't going to happen. Where was Coates when Hillary said it wasn't going to happen.

[appalachiablue]

39. +1 and Amen. Where were they, and Coates?

[appalachiablue]

17. "The ONE AA person 'trotted out' when Sanders needs creds"? Where have you been,

not around based on your comment. And watch your language.

Nina Turner, state senator from Ohio, firebrand speaker and activist gives rousing Intro. for Bernie to Cleveland campaign rally packed house,

[Beacool]

19. Yes, a handful of people.

Hillary could come up with a myriad of Congress people, plus state and federal officials, activists and friends who she has known for years.

[Luminous Animal]

22. Bernie has activists who will work to transform the Democratic Party the party for the people.

[brentspeak]

23. Cronies.

That's the word you were looking for.

[beltanefauve]

40. Yes indeed

An establishment candidate gets a bunch of endorsements from other members of the establishment, and we're supposed to be impressed.

[libdem4life]

24. I could do a lot of things, but do only those that are important. So, exactly when shall we expect

any of them? The myriad, that is. She's tanking. Now would be a good time to start.

[Beacool]

26. Why should she need them now?

IA and NH are not representative of the rest of the nation. They are two majorly white states.

[libdem4life]

28. Well, guess that settles that. LOL Guess you don't read the news. And what does this

have to do with race? Remind me again.

[pinebox]

34. Goalposts moved!

[appalachiablue]

29. And how many regular people show at her public campaign 'rallies'?

[grasswire]

36. the word "myriad" should not be followed by the word "of"...

Thanks.

[brentspeak]

21. "Hillary could come up with dozens of people..."

&quot ...who her P.R. firms have hired to shill for her.)"

Fixed it for you.

[Beacool]

25. You wish.......

[libdem4life]

32. Most all of the 1%ers are for Hillary. Duh. They don't want to have to share with the peons,

either. You know the "I've got mine...sucks to be you." I'm sure you've heard of them. Glad you brought that up.

[artislife]

30. You mean the ones that won't ask her to push for reparations? nt

[uponit7771]

33. Why does this person skin color make a difference in what he's saying? tia