Telling that the Mayor of Flint MI endorsed Clinton?

[Skwmom]

Clinton Super PAC hack on All Due Respect made this comment.

Also hitting Bernie on guns and middle class taxes.

Is there a tragedy they would not exploit for their political reasons?

What it tells me: No.

[arcane1]

1. Is there a tragedy they would not exploit for their political reasons?

No.

If 9/11 wasn't too tragic to exploit, nothing is.

[kath]

2. EXACTLY.

[LanternWaste]

71. It's exploitation when candidate A does it, yet a sincere concern when candidate B does it.

It's only exploitation when candidate A does it, yet merely sincere concern and "speaking truth to power" when candidate B does it.

It's only triangulation when candidate A does it, simple outreach when candidate B does it.




Hopefully, the end of the primaries will allow many clever posters to begin acting rational again. But that's merely a hop on my part rather than expectation.

[riversedge]

3. oh NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO's Bernie is being vetted!!!

[Motown_Johnny]

10. Just exactly how is this part of the vetting process? n/t

[Skwmom]

15. This is not vetting. And Clinton hasn't been vetted but in the GE she would be. n/t

[synergie]

55. No, this is just people actually supporting the canddiate that seems to be actually

care about the issues that concern her and her city. Clinton of all people has not be vetted? Are you kidding?

I guess sliming and attacking literally anyone who does not support Bernie is how one runs a "different kind of campaign" that's not negative at all right?

[Metric System]

4. How has it been exploited? Or is this yet another throw shit at Hillary and see what sticks thread?

[notadmblnd]

9. People here have been giving her credit for solving a problem that hasn't been solved

She is personally taking credit for telling Governor Snyder to "cut it out" and ask for Federal assistance when in fact Rachael Maddow, an activist Dr, Michael Moore and Jessie Jackson went there before her. She exploited the situation to make herself look like she is powerfull enough to make a Republican get off his ass, when in fact, she had nothing to do with it.

That's how.

[synergie]

61. Which people are these, and who has been stating that the problem has been solved, please

provide your links and evidence to back up these claims.

She's taking credit for her own statements and the actions that happened afterwards, and the whining the came with it citing her specifically?

Yes, Maddow had been covering it for a week, with no response, Dr. Mona was ignored since September of 2014, Michael Moore has been dismissed as a liberal kook, and Jessie Jackson's visit and anything that was said produced zero action.

She said something and then stuff happened, and the whining began. She actually WAS powerful enough to shame him into getting off his duff, when she had quite a lot to do with it, AS HIS REACTION shows.

So the "how" seems to be just making up stuff, and claiming that the person on the ground dealing with the issue, like the Mayor somehow is lying, or just to stupid to have a grip on what's going on in her own town, right?

Where is the exploitation? Oh, when she contacted the Stabenow and Kildee and sent people down there to figure out the status of the testing and the funds and to see what federal action could be taken?

I think you're just upset that Bernie did absolutely nothing but call for Snyder to resign, as if that somehow dealt with the problems at hand.

[notadmblnd]

68. Rachael Maddow, Michael Moore, Jessie Jackson, Cher to name a few.

She said something and then stuff happened,

This was nothing more than a coincidence. Governor Snyder doesn't cow tow to HRC- that's freaking ridiculous. Your other point

She actually WAS powerful enough to shame him into getting off his duff,

is even more off the charts. Since when are Republicans capable of feeling any shame? So we all know that is not true.

sent people down there to figure out the status of the testing and the funds and to see what federal action could be taken?

HRC has no power to take any Federal Government action. And she did nothing but pay lip service. The spigot with the poisoned water is still on. People are still being charged for that poisoned water and not her nor one of her people has so much as broke the ground with a shovel to begin digging to lay a new pipeline. If she had donated money or water, we would have heard about that by now, so we know even that hasn't happened.

Where is the exploitation?

The exploitation of the situation is how she took credit for it and used it to make political points in the Sunday night debate.

Oh, when she contacted the Stabenow and Kildee and sent people down there to figure out the status of the testing and the funds and to see what federal action could be taken?

Again, HRC doesn't have the power to take any Federal action. So again she has done nothing.

Here is that link you wanted to prove I was not lying

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1023099

[Lucinda]

5. Cant imagine why she would be supportive of the only POTUS candidate who contacted her

to find out what needs to be done to help her city. Whodathunkit?

[notadmblnd]

11. So now, Hillary knows what needs to be done.

Tell me, what action has she taken? Please be specific. What is she doing that was not already being done by others?

[Lucinda]

47. Ask the mayor, she is the one crediting her help. Or

you could probably take a moment or two of your time, if you are really interested, to find the video of Clinton calling out the governor, or the articles I've read about Clinton sending people to Flint to find out what was needed and what she has done about it.

[notadmblnd]

50. What has she done about it

You claim it, you provide the evidence. Calling the Gov out is nothing that others didn't do before her.

[synergie]

56. The claim was made by the Mayor of Flint, the evidence is there in her statement that upset you all

so much. Please see her statements for the evidence you demand.

[notadmblnd]

69. No, the Mayor of Flint hasn't said HRC solved the problem

The mayor of Flint isn't stupid. She knows the problem is going to take years to resolve.

[notadmblnd]

72. I'm aware this is not a court of law however, the one making the claim has the burden of proof

and I am not the one making the claim that HRC took care of it all with one phone call to the Mayor of Flint.

[tularetom]

37. Talk is cheap and you only have to listen to Clinton to learn how cheap it is

You might ask yourself what she has actually done to remedy the situation.

[Lucinda]

48. I already know. Perhaps YOU should investigate a bit?

[synergie]

57. I agree, but Bernie is the only who has been indulging in cheap talk, Hillary's actions were

pretty well laid out, check out local michigan media and the Mayor's own words. If you need an illustration of the cheapness of talk, perhaps you should see what Bernie has done, other than talk. What steps has he taken to remedy the situation, since as a Democratic candidate in the primaries they both have equal responsibilities to remedy the situation.

[uponit7771]

65. Well... you know, the phone system she used was corporation or some shit so... there you go

... /sarcasm

[msongs]

6. telling that bernie sanders is endorsed by tom cotton, a US senator. bigger than a mayor nt

[Lucinda]

49. Wow...Tom Cotton endorsed Sanders?

The guy who proudly wrote the open letter to Iran dissing Obama?

[Art_from_Ark]

58. Cotton is a bullshitter extraordinaire

"But don't take the Arkansas senator too seriously: Cotton has had harsh words for Sanders in the past. During an edition of the Hugh Hewitt show last November, Cotton said his fellow senator "espouses the economic theory of communism, a political system that caused the deaths of tens of millions of people in the 20th Century."

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/05/politics/tom-cotton-supports-bernie-sanders/

[Lucinda]

60. Yep.

What research i've done certainly supports your assessment.

[sufrommich]

7. You're going after the Mayor of Flint now?

[SCantiGOP]

14. Right, sufrommich

It was the Republican Governor, not the Mayor, that created the disaster.
OP: show some respect for the truth and delete your post.

[riversedge]

18. Go now---under the bus with the Mayor of Flint because she endorsed Hillary.

icon inserted just in case

[fredamae]

8. It is apparent that Democratic Candidate

HRC's Camp is against Single Payer, Reinstating Glass-Steagall, Snubs the Dem base, Raises the "1950's Dreaded Red" Fear card, is defended by RW Fix The Debt Ed Rendell (Cut Social Security), Third Way (GOP) Harold Ford, Against Cannabis Legalization, Against $15.00 minimum wage, Pro-Death Penalty, War............and more
Is this is all true - How can these people call themselves Democrats with a straight face?
I mean WTF?

[Skwmom]

16. Don't forget the TPP. Her statement made it loud and clear she is only against it for now. n/t

[fredamae]

24. Yes, I forgot that and prob more

It's becoming quite a long list...actually. These are GOP positions, imo.

[notadmblnd]

12. I think her head was easily turned by HRC's celebrity

and now she feels special because she got a phone call from one.

[riversedge]

19. Hillary sent some of her staff to Flint MI to help. More than a phone call

[notadmblnd]

22. Help do what?

Specifics please.

[John Poet]

29. Helped the mayor write her endorsement?

[synergie]

59. Or you could stop listening to the voices in your head and do your homework.

Why exactly are you suggesting that the Mayor would be so easily manipulated and dictated to anyway? Is it just because she stated some facts about what the only candidate to actually show interest in the situation has done, or is it something else about that Mayor that is leading you to make such insulting and baseless attacks?

[Katashi_itto]

54. A crack H Team parachuted in and deployed to Help her write a speech endorsing Hillary.

All while dodging sniper fire.

[sufrommich]

23. Seriously? Your accusing Dr. Karen Weaver,Mayor

of Flint, of being too star struck to think straight because she was dazzled by celebrity? Keep showing your asses,Sanders supporters.

[notadmblnd]

36. I think so, She is also very ambitious.

You gonna try to say that there is something wrong with being ambitious? She has the ear of a very prominent Washington insider. Wouldn't your head be turned if you were to get a call from HRC? Sure it would. I'd even venture to say you'ld make an OP about it right here on DU. Wouldn't you? Be honest now.

[sufrommich]

40. What an incredibly dismissive and condescending post.

[notadmblnd]

42. I learned that from following HRC and her supporters

[synergie]

62. Becasue they keep telling you how your posts sound?

[betsuni]

63. Good one!

[notadmblnd]

67. hehehe

you are funny.

[notadmblnd]

70. No, by observing their behavior.

I said following them, not talking to them. Please, try to keep up.

[notadmblnd]

43. You asked me a question, I answered it.

which is more than what you did with my question. Sorry, you didn't like me answer. Nah, not really.

[Beacool]

34. She did more than that.

Google is your friend.

[notadmblnd]

41. Don't give me that fricken cop out.

You can't be specific because you don't know. Do you? Because if you did, you'd be primping and preening and spouting off about it right here.

Well I do and I know that, none of her people there have turned off the spicket that supplies the poisoned water to Flint's residents. And no, there is no one from HRCs staff currently working on digging and building a new pipeline. And I'm certain that she has no boots on the ground dispensing cases of bottled water to the city's residents. She's done nothing that others didn't do before she decided to take credit for it.

It is sad and pathetic that people here- who really have no clue can stand up and defend someone who exploits a tragedy for their own political purposes.

[Beacool]

45. Blah, blah, blah.

Go take your umbrage elsewhere. It just sounds like sour grapes.

[notadmblnd]

46. He he he.

You ARE funny.

[Beacool]

13. Yeah, because every Democrat all of the sudden is supposed to endorse the man

who wasn't even a member of the party until a handful of months ago. Gee, I wonder why Hillary has so many endorsements from other Democrats. Maybe because she's been one since the mid 60s?

[Skwmom]

17. She's part of a corrupt bought and paid for group of sell outs. n/t

[Beacool]

20. That may be the opinion of the Left, but they don't represent the party as a whole.

[Skwmom]

25. It's also the opinion of a lot of Independents which the Democrats can't win without.

[Beacool]

28. We'll see.

[riversedge]

27. @SenSanders hits a new low-->

@SenSanders hits a new low--> … #FeeltheBern(NOT) #p2

[Beacool]

31. I thought that he was the one who promised a campaign based on issues, not attacks.

Please, he's just like any other politician. The only difference is that he's the only one in the Senate who describes himself as a "Democratic Socialist".

[notadmblnd]

21. Hillary used to be a Republican (still is if one were to ask me)

What, you got to claim party loyalty at birth for it to be valid? How much time do you feel needs to go by before one that calls themselves a Democrat- is valid?

[Beacool]

32. Ahem, she's been a Democrat since the 60s.

Unlike her esteemed opponent who just joined the party out of political expediency.

[notadmblnd]

35. You did not answer my question.

That's ok, I didn't really expect one.

[John Poet]

30. Define 'mid-60s'

Was 1964 part of the "mid 60s"?

Because she was for GOLDWATER that year...

[Beacool]

33. How cutesy.........

She was 17 years old at the time. She joined the party in college, while still an undergrad.

[tularetom]

38. Or maybe because she is the only candidate who keeps an enemies list

Except Nixon and he's dead now.

[Beacool]

39. Ahhh, some of you are so funny with your little RW talking points.

[MrWendel]

26. Sounds like...

Morning Joe. Trying to share the Crisis with the Mayor and the EPA, and taking the heat of the Governor.

[m-lekktor]

44. I figured that when the mayor so vigorously and needlessly trashed Bernie over this.

I mean she can't be THAT easily pandered to I would hope so it was probably part of the "plan" all along.

[Lucinda]

52. Do you have a link to the Mayor trashing Bernie? Havent seen that!

Thanks!

[gwheezie]

51. Is this flint syndrome?

Because of course the female African American mayor is too stupid to know who to support. Or easily manipulated. Or sinister and evil. Or being bought off by wall st. Because it can't be she prefers Hillary to Bernie.
Plenty of people have endorsed Bernie as well. Should both sides start attecking each others supporters? Seems stupid to me.

[longship]

53. Horrors! I would hate to be attecked.

Whatever that means.

Sorry. I agree with you, but sometimes typos invite some fun. I just found it humorous.

[uponit7771]

66. Yeap, the worse Sanders numbers get with PoC (link inside) the more WE have the syndromes and shit

Have you seen his new add? It's like he's hasn't learned shit, I'm becoming disillusioned with his run

Monmouth University has a new national poll out that casts some fascinating, if very preliminary, light on this subject. Compared to its poll in December, Monmouth shows Sanders making pretty big gains: Clinton was up 59-to-26 last month, and only 52-to-37 now. But among black and Latino voters, Clinton has actually expanded her lead from 61-to-18 to 71-to-21. In other words, a legitimate "Sanders surge" nationally has coincided with a deterioration of his standing with the voters he will most need for a breakthrough after the first two contests of the primary season.

http://www.monmouth.edu/assets/0/32212254770/32212254991/32212254992/32212254994/32212254995/30064771087/4d7b2106-b632-4b79-a6ed-7afc73902d4c.pdf

[JonathanRackham]

64. Great, now the politicians are involved.

Lots of blame and the problem will never get fixed.

[NCTraveler]

73. Fighting against the NRA.

Fighting for a strong middle class.

Both great progressive values.

When people are gunned down in a church in SC, in a meeting in Cali, and so on; it says a lot about those dismissing us who are calling for change as using tragedies for political reason.

Sanders is using the tragedy that is income inequality EVERY SINGLE DAY. More and more of us are waking up to the fact of how many economic justice only people there are out there. You would never pose the same verbiage towards Sanders daily use of a tragedy. I wouldn't as Sanders is right to do what he is doing.

Consistency.