Biden going after Bernie like the good "Establishment" VP he is.

[Skwmom]

Vice President Biden on Wednesday offered criticism of "socialism" during a speech abroad, seemingly a shot at Bernie Sanders, a self-described democratic socialist and Democratic candidate for president.

Biden made the remark in a keynote address at the World Economic Forum in Switzerland, where he called for "a more progressive tax code" and a strengthening of the middle class.
"Keeping billions of dollars in offshore tax havens might be good for your shareholders, but it robs your own country," Biden told those in attendance at the international event.

Biden called on corporate executives to shift their tactics and put a greater emphasis on workers, saying a proportionate tax code was a component of restructuring to focus on long-term growth.

Establishment Joe. Willing to do anything to hold onto power.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/266483-biden-we-dont-need-socialism

[gwheezie]

1. Wait a minute!

I thought last week biden practically endorsed Bernie. But that was good biden, this must be bad biden.

[stevenleser]

31. It truly is dazzling how quickly they can do a 180 and attack people or support

Them as the case may be.

[virtualobserver]

40. it took you a while to do your 180 on Hillary

[Art_from_Ark]

42. And what a 180 that was!

[virtualobserver]

45. it was weathervane-esque

[Art_from_Ark]

49. LOL

[artislife]

46. *snort! nt

[CommonSenseDemocrat]

32. Lol

[pangaia]

53. That was the REAL Biden.

Somebody got to him. You better believe it.

[restorefreedom]

54. you betcha.the wagons are circling

but if they think for a second they are going to shove biden down our throats after hillary flames out, they can stick that up their collective asses.

[EndElectoral]

2. Ah, Joe, say it ain't so....

[madfloridian]

3. Falling right in line with Ford, Rendell...ready to step in if socialist Bernie takes 1st 3

Already to step in. Do they care what we think? NO, they do not.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511032682

Andrea Mitchell suggests if Hillary loses SC after losing NH and IA that the Democratic Party would start looking elsewhere. She suggests the only place to look would be the Vice President.

Ed Rendell replied like this: The VP by withdrawing by deciding not to run, held himself open to that contingency.

He goes to say that if Hillary Clinton has legal problems, he (Biden) is available.

He says if Hillary's legal problems continue, if Bernie wins SC on top of IA and NH it would mean a real race.

He further says they would have to see March 1 after the smoke clears. He says it's not likely to happen but it could be the eventuality and is certainly out there. By that I assume he means Biden would step in.

Harold Ford also spoke out on MSNBC about what might happen.

Instead of celebrating the rise of a new star, establishment Democrats are freaking out about the possibility of Bernie Sanders winning both Iowa and New Hampshire.

Case in point: former Tennessee congressman Harold Ford, Jr., who on MSNBC agreed with Joe Scarborough that establishment Dems could recruit John Kerry or Joe Biden to run if Bernie sweeps both early primary states.

SO...where are they going with this? Whose idea is it that Joe Biden is now free to step in if Bernie takes the 1st 3 states?

[malokvale77]

14. Ha Ha...

Democratic Party is starting to look like the circus in the GOP.

Rich folks are damn stupid.

[Beacool]

36. It's a conspiracy against Hillary.

I wonder if some here buy tin foil by the crate...........

[madfloridian]

39. Don't try "conspiracy" stuff against me.

This is a test run, not a conspiracy.

The very idea of saving Biden in case he was needed later is sad. He's a good man, and he should not be even looking like he's going along with Ford, Rendell, and who ever else is doing it.

The primary is not over yet, may surprise us all either way.

But the fact they are sending up a test balloon and no one is contradicting them...speaks volumes about how they are feeling toward the left.

[restorefreedom]

55. and how sad that biden ends a long career

by letting himself be used as a tool by the establishment he served for so long.

but everyone is a tool for the 1% too bad he cant see it.

[SCantiGOP]

4. Tiresome

Really getting hard to come hear and read this mock outrage.
Biden is a true public servant and one of the least corruptible people to ever serve in the Senate.
I'll be casting my vote soon in the SC primary and you are not helping his case.

[INdemo]

6. Who says Biden can win nomination

Or steal it from Bernie? Not gonna happen

[Skwmom]

37. Least corruptible infers still corruptible. n/t

[SCantiGOP]

50. So, let me understand

If I say someone is the least intelligent person I have ever met, according to your logic I am saying that they are still intelligent?
Interesting use of language.

[2pooped2pop]

43. are you kind of threatening people that you will not vote for Bernie in the SC primary if they don't

get in line? First if you are serious that what someone says on this site can in anyway decide your vote, then you don't know anything about the issues to begin with. I find that common among the general population but unusual on a political site.

Mock outrage? I assure you that many Bernie supporters are pissed as hell and can't understand how anyone could be fooled by Clinton let alone politically educated people. The outrage is real and the ass kissing ain't gonna happen. Go vote for Hillary. Just remember if you get it, that you caused it.

[Le Taz Hot]

52. Yeah, I particularly liked the way

he was a true public servant when he helped shove Clarence Thomas onto the Supreme Court. And the Bankruptcy Bill, the one that was a sweetheart deal for the banks but fucked over everyone else. Yeah, that one screamed "public servant." Joe's time is done. Thank goddess. If you're going to vote for Hillary just because someone said something bad about your hero, I don't think we could count on your solid vote anyway.

[Voice for Peace]

5. The responses to Joe will be interesting, and his response back.

Moreover, if he's intentionally undermining Bernie.... Oopsy! under the bus. I will personally kick him there.

But I thought he was smarter, and had better morals than that. By which I mean, that he would not undermine the democratic process. Hope I am correct.

[Skwmom]

15. His desire for the presidency over rides any moral qualms. n/t

[Voice for Peace]

19. If so that makes me very sad.

And no way he could win, either.

[2pooped2pop]

44. there's a whole lot of money in the status quo

and remember Joe has called many of the war perpetrators good people. He hasn't the balls to take on the problems. He's a nice guy and I actually like him but he will be more of the same as well.

[Eatacig]

7. Cmon

Do none of you really not see Karl Rove behind these attacks. I mean Bernie Sanders is a great
guy but this is getting riduculous.

[malokvale77]

16. "riduculous" indeed.

I'm seeing a lot of that here from new posters lately.

It's the Hillary affect: To attack or infect, as a disease.

[Autumn]

27. Do you really believe Biden is Karl Rove's puppet?

That what Biden said was orchestrated by Rove? I got a bridge for sale. Cheap.

[Bjorn Against]

8. I think this is an example of the media reading things that are not there

Nowhere does Biden mention Bernie's name and I am sure Biden is well aware that Bernie supports a progressive tax code. While he may consider himself a Democratic Socialist he is not looking to turn our economy into a purely socialist system.

From everything I have seen it appears Biden really likes Bernie, I really don't think he meant to aim this statement at him. The media is just looking to stir up controversy here, let's not fall for it.

[Dawson Leery]

9. In your heart, you know he's (Joe) right.

[Skwmom]

18. No he's not. In my heart I know Joe is just another politician more interested in his own power

than the people of this country.

[Dawson Leery]

25. Or he found out that Bernie tried to undermine their re-election

with the thought of a primary challenge.

[Skwmom]

38. I read the details on that phony outrage. But I guess he needs to scrape the barrel for some excuse

[whatchamacallit]

10. Tail Gunner Joe

Affluent career politician says what?

[ecstatic]

11. The truth is, it's a tough sell, even to democrats

Most democrats are for well regulated capitalism. We have a big tent, and a large group of people under our tent vote democratic even when it means higher taxes. But Sanders nomination could push them to the other side.

[Metric System]

13. It's a tough sell, even in my native country of Canada.

[Skwmom]

21. There is no such thing as well regulated capitalism in this country. n/t

[Rosa Luxemburg]

12. Looks like Joe has been given 'instructions'

hauled over the coals for saying the stuff he said about Hillary last week.

[ecstatic]

20. Or he found out that Bernie really did try to primary him and Obama

back in 2012? Lots of possibilities ranging from just speaking the truth or a little revenge served cold. Who cares though? You're worried about the wrong things.

[Skwmom]

24. Thanks for the laugh.

We wouldn't want to get between Obama/Biden and the TPP

[Hassin Bin Sober]

30. How did Bernie try to "primary" him and Obama?

[pacalo]

17. Joe was impressed -- until he was told to back off (presumably?).

Other popular Democrats who spoke out for the public's interest seem to have been, in effect, neutered by the party by giving them something else to do:

Howard Dean (&, btw, his effective 50-state strategy is ignored by party leadership, which is weird);

and just when Russ Feingold had established his own grass-roots PAC made up of ordinary people who admire his integrity & values, he's chosen as 'a special envoy to the Great Lakes region of Africa'.

/based on my own gut feeling.

[Skwmom]

23. I think Joe said those "nice things" b/c he was always looking to get back in and

he'd need Bernie supporters.

[pacalo]

26. Could be, skwmom.

[Warren DeMontague]

28. I think you're right.

[pacalo]

33. You...

just made my day.

[alcibiades_mystery]

22. Subautobus Bidenque

[arcane1]

29. Funny, rich assholes and republicans refer to a "progressive tax code" as "Socialism" n/t

[Beacool]

34. My head is spinning, I thought that last week Biden was Sanders' supporters hero.

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Now he's been pushed under the bus.

My, my, how fickle they are.......

[comradebillyboy]

48. The purity test is rigorous and few are pure enough...nt

[Eric J in MN]

35. I don't think Joe Biden was criticizing Bernie Sanders.

Biden probably doesn't consider Sanders a socialist. Biden said earlier this month, "If Bernie Sanders never said he was a democratic socialist, based on what he's saying people wouldn't be calling him a democratic socialist."

Worldwide, "democratic socialism" usually means government ownership of the means of production plus free elections. Sanders' philosophy is usually called "social democracy." That's why the center-left party in Denmark is the "Social Democrats."

[Skwmom]

41. Biden is tuned in to the political happenings and knows exactly what he said. n/t

[moondust]

47. Biden at Davos knocking socialism!

Ha! Talk about a captive audience!

(Hey Joe, I think Davos is for those 62 oligarchs who own more than about half the world's total population owns. Reassure them, Joe, reassure them.)

[JoePhilly]

51. Manufactured outrage.

Must be a slow day at the factory.

[Babel_17]

56. Might be preparing for a run

If he can't be believed as being able to take on Sanders, he won't be welcomed into the fray by the establishment that currently favors Clinton.