2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumTo McCaskill and other Clinton surrogates: If Bernie Sanders makes you think of a hammer and sickle,
Maybe you should do a little reading? Or maybe you would argue that Democratic Socialism and Communism are identical-twin siblings?
When McCaskill and other Clinton surrogates mention Bernie Sanders and communism in the same sentence, they're working on the hope that low-information voters aren't aware of the difference.
They're also ringing a bell that they know can't be un-rung.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)democratic nominee a commie?
These people are willing to go down with the ship in order to save fascism.
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)colleagues dont' repect his ideas or think they are workable.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)you Sanders supporters love to bring up is such bullshit.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Republicans would never air an ad of a video of Sanders praising Castro. Never. And we know such an ad would have zero effect on South Florida.
Why don't you want to discuss things we know are going to happen? The electability argument is fair game, both ways. The truth should be up for discussion. Not swept under the rug when we know for a fact it is going to happen.
Sanders own quotes have been hidden here as offensive. Why act like reality isn't real? Why go into the general without vetting. Electability is always a big deal. It should be as well.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)damage that Democrats might do if they continue down this road.
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)may keep all democrats out of the white house.oops.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... than Bernie does, as it was the Koch brothers that built their empire with Stalin's money when Fred Koch worked with Joseph Stalin after earlier working with Hitler before he was outed in WWII. And subsequently it was the Koch brothers that helped the DLC get started too.
I think most Americans want to be aligned with 99% serving Democratic Socialism like they show in studies where most Americans without knowing it want an economic divide of wealth like that of Democratic Socialist countries like Sweden, rather than 1%er serving regimes like Stalin's and what the Koch brothers want here.
After all, even though Republicans tried to play the "socialist" card on FDR for four elections, they finally went ahead and pushed through a constitutional amendment so no future president could get as popular and be president as long as he was when he successfully put in place socialist policies that served most Americans which they liked a lot more than the CRAP we have now from both parties that serve the economic royalists now rather than keeping them from getting too much power like FDR did in his time.
But lets stop talking about labels... Bernie wants to get back to talking more about the substance on the issues and working towards solutions that serve the natural persons of this country the way the constitution intended, not the corporate persons the way it has been warped by right wing courts in to doing in recent years with the blessings of corporate owned pols in both parties.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)I think it was that commie loving president named Obama.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)and grandparents had to flee the Soviets. But in all fairness, they are probably higher information voters and might not fall for that Republican ploy.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)to know the truth, and so will RUN from Bernie once they draw them images of "Socialist" and "hammers and sickles". I know they can't possibly believe this crap they hype themselves, so I can only imagine them chuckling to each other each time they pull this type of crap, smug in the knowing that they are oh just such clever little experts in their game of 'politics' over the 'oaf' class.
Better watch out kiddies...that EVIL COMMIE PIG IS OUT TO EAT YOU ALIVE
I just have to say, if I were a Hillary supporter AND I'M NOT, but if I were this kind of juvenile bullshit would give me one hellofa good reason to ask myself if this is the type of campaign tactics, the type of primary contest, or the type of candidate I really want to support. Sorry, but I certainly do not see anything "Presidential" in using these types of tactics against the voters.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)goes a lot further than just mere allusions to "hammer and sickle".
monmouth4
(9,694 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,183 posts)kath
(10,565 posts)politician": http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511049184
TheBlackAdder
(28,183 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)while attacking an American POTUS.
And here's the thing, we all know both Clintons have won ever time the Republicans have thrown anything at them.
Sanders is still a "virgin". And he gets ugly when he doesn't face an adoring crowd. There's a plentitude of footage of the man getting agitated, annoyed, impatient and huffy when an interviewer doesn't simply play along with Bernie's usual parroted talking point about the evils of this world all revolving around the wealthy.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)is what Republicans would do to him. Not what those of us on the Left think.
You Sanders supporters have spammed this forum with how the Republicans will do xyz if Clinton gets the nomination.
But mention the treasure trove of stuff against Bernie just waiting to be plastered night/day over the media and you all have a childish meltdown.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Always remember to stretch first before attempting it.
Why don't you humor me, and take a few minutes to tell me what you know about WHY, in the time of "Detente", Bernie Sanders came to have a Soviet Flag in his office.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)shows YOU KNOW it's one part of his achilles heel.
You are all in deep denial if you don't know that the REASON why that Soviet flag hung is irrelevant in politics, or that he attacked Reagan and Reagan's policies (a POTUS who is still popular amongst many), that he reached out to SEVERAL communist world leaders and visited with them
all of which comes with lots of photos and quotes. All of which he'd have to spend weeks trying to fight back from.
Honestly, there is a freaking treasure trove of stuff to be used against Bernie that will ensure not one Republican, Independent or swing voter would ever vote for him.
All of it would drive Sanders supposed "favorability" into the crapper.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)He attacked Reagan? GASP! Reagan? That FUCK Bernie Sanders attacked Reagan?! He attacked REAGAN, the guy who had the romantic getaway with Gorbachev at a cute little hotel on an island?
Pack it in Bernie Sanders supporters... KittyWampus says we're done.
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immoderate
(20,885 posts)Those are terrible things, to an American.
--imm