2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHaving David Brock deeply involved in your campaign is like
having Lee Atwater closely involved in your campaign. It says a lot. They are very similar types, both amoral slimeball hitmen willing to plumb any depths.
Sidney Blumenthal and David Brock, two of her trusted advisors.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)you see them visibly want to taste it.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)An excellent description. It really IS visible, isn't it.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)White House in the first place. Or, as Blumenthal put it, "Her old friend from Arkansas".
Morris in turn, brought in Union Buster, Mark Penn.
How anyone can support this entire gaggle of anti-working class assholes is beyond me.
reddread
(6,896 posts)Jarqui
(10,122 posts)last few weeks, it makes a rational person wonder "Why can't Hillary win with the truth?"
When one lies, flip-flops and deceives as readily as Hillary has throughout her career and in this campaign, it's hard to enthusiastically support her. I'd never support anything resembling the present day GOP but if Hillary prevails, I'm not sure what effort I'll be able to muster knowing my heart won't be behind her and that her campaign, when it involves people like David Brock doing a hatchet job on her opponent, is closer to resembling the GOP than anything I can recall in my history with the Democrats.
Bernie on the other hand, he's straight up. He tells you plain and simple where he stands and why. And you can look back 40-50 years and see him taking similar positions throughout his life.
Bernie has been elected for decades running on the things he believes in his heart. He had a pretty good vision as a young man because he hasn't had to "evolve" on many of his basic ideas about foreign wars, income diversity, etc. He doesn't have to lie. He doesn't have to flip-flop to get votes like Hillary. He doesn't have to hire political hit men to tear down his opponent with lies and deception like Hillary. You can take to the bank what he says because that's what he's done and fought for his entire life. Hillary's political epitaph will never be able to say anything like that because she's a political chameleon who rapidly changes color to attain political power - not necessarily because it's the right thing to do.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Bookmarking, thank you!
navarth
(5,927 posts)It indicates a man who believes in the greater good and is NOT in it for himself.
And David Brock appears to be a fucking asshole. What a dick.
mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)and makes me honestly wonder how anyone who calls themselves a Democrat can dismiss this candidate.
arikara
(5,562 posts)That typewritten letter, and the way he's holding his hands in the photo on the top. He hasn't changed a bit.
NJCher
(35,622 posts)In an era where politicians make up their personae via focus groups and other market research--and change it according the same tools--Bernie is exactly what he says he is.
If Bernie weren't the real deal, he would have a slogan on his bus, TV commercials, and other communications: "Bernie--the Real Deal."
I agree--Jarqui, please make up an OP with these clips.
Cher
merrily
(45,251 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)Meh.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)[/center][/font][hr]
cali
(114,904 posts)that is such a silly bullshit comparison. Whatever you think of West, he has had an illustrious academic career. Brock has never been anything but a political hitman.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)I'll take West every day of the week.
navarth
(5,927 posts)over this Brock asshole any day. YMMV.
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)Some can't stand his blunt honesty, but that's their tough shit.
mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)A bit of a reach, don't you think?
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Autumn
(44,984 posts)and the people she would surround herself with.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)Yes, I meant "fiend"
bvf
(6,604 posts)although Lee Atwater does have one redeeming quality.
reddread
(6,896 posts)that is one thing that must be said for him. He knew as well as anyone what he had been a part of.
ownership of media was made available to disposable CIA directors and previously barred interests
fought over the carcass of press freedom. and everything that came after... Clarence Thomas. Incubators.
BOMBINGS. BOMBINGS. BOMBINGS. BOMBINGS. BOMBINGS. BOMBINGS. BOMBINGS. BOMBINGS. BOMBINGS.
as if those criminals did not get away with enough in America's blame,
they came back for sloppier seconds after invalidating the voter's voice.
BOMBINGS. BOMBINGS. BOMBINGS. BOMBINGS. BOMBINGS. BOMBINGS. BOMBINGS. BOMBINGS. BOMBINGS.
and with whose help?
David Brock's ally.
bvf
(6,604 posts)I was thinking more along the lines of well-fed worms.
NJCher
(35,622 posts)Cher
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)David Brock is scum, and apparently, he really wants Hillary elected. What does that tell you?
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)something, isn't it?
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)I thought it was going to be that sort of thread...
Or maybe it is.