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Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 12:00 PM Jan 2016

Sanders has more Foreign Policy experience than 5 of the last 6 first term Presidents. Just Sayin...

Going back to 1976 - that's 40 years - the only person to have moved into the White House with more foreign policy experience than Bernie Sanders has now was George Herbert Walker Bush in 1988. And Bernie Sanders actively took part in the Congressional debate about going to war with Iraq, probably the biggest foreign policy blunder in any of our lifetimes. Unlike many leading Democrats, Sanders got it right,

I don't deny that Hilary Clinton has more foreign policy experience that Bernie Sanders does. And it isn't news to anyone how both of them voted on the Iraq War Resolution. But I think most people have lost sight of the fact that America traditionally elects Presidents who enter office with precious little foreign policy experience to speak of, and this world has been a dangerous place for as long as I can remember. Bernie Sanders has far more personal experience than most new presidents have regarding national security PLUS his judgement has already been tested - when it mattered most.

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Sanders has more Foreign Policy experience than 5 of the last 6 first term Presidents. Just Sayin... (Original Post) Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 OP
And better judgement. daleanime Jan 2016 #1
Better judgement is the Key Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #4
Judgement Is The Great Determeiner. Ya Either Have it OR You DON'T! CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #6
Lack of JUdgement goes way back for her Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #8
He Also Has More Experience with Dealing with the Aftermath of War benny05 Jan 2016 #2
Very True. A strong familiarity with Veteran issues should be a prerequisite Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #3
For all his flaws Poppy chose not to invade Iraq Fumesucker Jan 2016 #5
Good to know this and be reminded of it again. Cal33 Jan 2016 #7
No one running as a Republican personally has more foreign policy experience than Bernie either Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #9
That's true. Carter, Reagan, Clinton, Obama had no foreign policy chops. hedda_foil Jan 2016 #10

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
8. Lack of JUdgement goes way back for her
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 12:32 PM
Jan 2016

They sold the Democratic Party to the Corporatist Oligarchs Decades ago. But We're just supposed to forget that.

Do you think that this (below) had ANYTHING to do with: NAFTA, GATT, WTO, Telecommunications Act, ending welfare as we knew it, Glass-Stegall, etc, etc, up to, and including TPP?


The Rightwing Koch Brothers Fund the DLC

... the Koch brothers have also been funding the Democratic Leadership Council. Welcome fellow Democrat! ...

http://www.democrats.com/node/7789

Do deep-pocketed "philanthropists" necessarily control the organizations they fund? That has certainly been the contention of those who truck in conspiracy theories about the Rockefeller and Ford Foundations funding liberal and neo-liberal organizations. As for the rightwing, journalists such as Joe Conason and Gene Lyons uncovered that the "vast right wing conspiracy" -- or the New Right network of think tanks, media outlets and pressure groups -- was marshalled under rightwing billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife for his Get-Clinton campaign. Prior to the work of Conason and Lyons, Russ Bellant extensively documented in "The Coors Connection" how the Coors Family, Scaife and other wealthy rightwingers have funded the New Right movement since the early '70's. Among these rightwing benefactors are the Koch brothers. But the Kochs have been working both sides of the fence. As Bill Berkowitz writes, the Koch brothers have also been funding the Democratic Leadership Council.

According to SourceWatch, a project of the Center for Media & Democracy, the brothers are "leading contributors to the Koch family foundations, which supports a network of Conservative organizations and think tanks, including Citizens for a Sound Economy, the Manhattan Institute the Heartland Institute, and the Democratic Leadership Council."

Charles Koch co-founded the Cato Institute in 1977, while David helped launch Citizens for a Sound Economy in 1986.

This is no less stunning than if Scaife or the Coors family were funding the DLC. So do the Kochs just throw money at the DLC -

benny05

(5,322 posts)
2. He Also Has More Experience with Dealing with the Aftermath of War
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 12:08 PM
Jan 2016

Our vets. He's been on the Senate Veteran Affairs committee for years. When vets were having to wait so long for their care, Bernie worked across the aisle to get bills passed and appropriated.

That will be important for the General Election.



Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
3. Very True. A strong familiarity with Veteran issues should be a prerequisite
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 12:15 PM
Jan 2016

to becoming Commander in Chief. It informs one of the true costs of war.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
5. For all his flaws Poppy chose not to invade Iraq
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 12:18 PM
Jan 2016

Unlike some other Bush rather famously assisted by a certain sister in law by another mother.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
9. No one running as a Republican personally has more foreign policy experience than Bernie either
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 02:45 PM
Jan 2016

Sanders can more than hold his own on that front against anyone. Clinton wants to scare people into thinking he can't, but history supports Sanders. He is strongest in the areas that the American public always prioritizes AND has solid credentials on foreign policy.

hedda_foil

(16,371 posts)
10. That's true. Carter, Reagan, Clinton, Obama had no foreign policy chops.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 05:11 PM
Jan 2016

All but Obama were governors. Carter probably saw some of the world when he was in the Navy., but shore leave doesn't correspond to foreign policy. Clinton saw him some Europe when he was a Rhodes Scholar ... including Russia. Reagan might have been thinking of the good old days when he played Rick in Casablanca. (He was always confusing what really happened with what happened in the movies.) Obama didn't have any fps experience but the world loved him so much after Bushncheney® that they gave him a Nobel out of sheer relief.

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