Des Moines Register Endorsement: Hillary Clinton has needed knowledge, experience

[DemocratSinceBirth]

If there’s one thing Democrats and Republicans agree on this year, it’s the fact that the next president will face enormous challenges.

Domestically, this president must work with Congress in confronting the issues of immigration, health care, increased threats to national security, the disappearing middle class, the growing deficit, Social Security solvency, gun control, renewable energy, sentencing reform and more.

On the world stage, this president will have to work with foreign leaders in dealing with ISIS and other terrorists, climate change, the containment of nuclear threats posed in North Korea and Iran, the Russian incursions in Ukraine and foreign trade.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/editorials/endorsement/2016/01/23/des-moines-register-caucus-endorsement-hillary-clinton/79240238/

[JonLeibowitz]

1. Evidently running an honorable and truthful campaign is not a priority for the Des Moines Register.

Clinton has been actively misleading the public on issues surrounding core democratic principles. I am disappointed that the Des Moines Register ignored this public disservice that the Clinton campaign has engaged in in order to gain power.

[underthematrix]

3. Honorable and truthful would have been to run as an Independent

which is who he really is.

[JonLeibowitz]

6. Ah, detente!

[underthematrix]

11. Well the truth is the truth and it will set you free to vote for the primary

candidate who can actually win the general.

[JonLeibowitz]

13. You have no idea what my previous message meant so you just keep beating the drum. n/t

[underthematrix]

20. That's not the issue. Bernsters and trumpsters are from

the same barrel just appearing to run in different directions

[JonLeibowitz]

23. You know nothing about me. n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. I will only throw one thing in here...

I bolster the Hell out of Hillary on this board but I have started a grand total of one thread that was negative toward Senator Sanders since the Primary began.

[JonLeibowitz]

33. Thank you, DSB. I have also only started but one negative thread towards Sec. Clinton

This one: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251892632

I thought it was my patriotic duty to point out the implications for the oath of office.

You can view my other threads in my journal.

[Uncle Joe]

9. Not if Bernie cared first about the Democratic Party winning even if he didn't get the nomination.

[underthematrix]

14. Yep. Suing the DNC in federal court suggest this is about putting a Repub

in the WH

[Uncle Joe]

18. It has to do about the damages done to his campaign by the DNC and full discovery, Bernie's voter

data was at risk as well.

[underthematrix]

21. THe data breach was caused by his team against HRC

Bernie is suing over the corrective action taken by the DNC which is their right

[Kentonio]

28. Which is not their right. The DNC are bound by contracts just like anyone else.

[underthematrix]

35. Bernie's contract includes consequences when your team knowingly

and illegally accesses another candidates data.

[Kentonio]

39. The consequences were clearly spelled out.

10 days to find a mutually acceptable solution before revoking access. DWS decided to just ignore that, therefore she got sued. Simple.

As for illegal, I'm not aware of any criminal charges being pressed. Feel free to link.

[underthematrix]

61. No Democrat who is seeking the Presidential bid on the Dem ticket would

NOT do something so stupid. If Bernie were to win the nomination, he would be in essence the head of a party he has reviled in the very recent past. He would have to sell the Democrat's platform so we could get down ticket seats, gov ships and state houses. Bernie is a fraud, an opportunist who has been able to manipulate his bernster hardliners into believing and defending his alternate universe platform.

Bernie is our trump

[Kentonio]

77. Bullshit

He's criticized the party because the party deserved criticizing for abandoning its principle and ignoring the people who need it most. When he wins he gets the chance to reform the party starting with a new head of the DNC who will support progressive candidates.

[FloridaBlues]

47. Well 45 minutes of unfettered access to help themselves in what didn't belong to them

Yep that's honorable.
Back to the original post so happy for Clinton's endorsement..

[CorporatistNation]

60. DNC VIOLATED THE EFFING CONTRACT! Debbie In Charge!

BTW, I guess The Register folks could care less whether or not someone is truthful on a greater than 38% basis... Npo matter, Bernie WILL WIN in Iowa... These folks think for themselves.

[Uncle Joe]

31. The data breach occurred when the vendor's wall fell, this was the second time, Bernie's

campaign warned the DNC when it occurred the first time in October.

Once the wall was reestablished (within an hour) there was no reason for the DNC to punitively cut Bernie's campaign off from his own voter data, the lifeblood of any campaign.

Bernie's campaign has taken corrective action against the staffer (s) that took advantage of the breach.

As I stated Bernie's campaign is suing for discovery as well, his voter data was also at risk, did someone in the Clinton campaign take advantage of it?

Nobody knows, that's what discovery is about.

[underthematrix]

36. Bernie fired his Data Director because his lack of a moral compass led

to the illegal access of HRC's data

[Qutzupalotl]

32. The data breach was caused by someone recommended by the DNC

to the Sanders campaign, and who sabotaged Sanders right before a debate. Convenient.

[underthematrix]

41. Well if you believe that than that says something about Bernie

Presidents have to watch their backs all the time because there are people who are always working their personal agenda. Bernie is too old for the madness that comes with the presidency. He need to go find a comfortable rocking chair and have a seat.

[Qutzupalotl]

42. The DNC is corrupt, so I should support Clinton in the primary?

Not on your life.

[underthematrix]

46. Of course, Bernie is telling you the DNC is corrupt but

he must have known that before he registered as a Democrat so he could use the DNC machine for his presidential bid. Bernie isn't stupid but he sure thinks you are and if you need any more proof here it is:

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2016/01/bernie-sanders-promise-citizens-united-supreme-court

This is the kind of rhetoric you would expect to hear from rightwing politicians.

[Qutzupalotl]

49. No, Bernie isn't. I can see the DNC is corrupt for myself.

Hiding the debates was stupid, and adding this "forum" to try to prop up Clinton's sagging numbers just looks desperate.

[underthematrix]

51. Then why is he running as a Democrat. I don't support Bloomberg but

he's honest enough to run as who he is. Bernie is not. And why would a 74 year old man run for president, a man who if successful would take the oath of office at age 75. This doesn't make any sense. This suggest something else is going on here.

[Qutzupalotl]

52. He's a better Democrat than most Democrats.

He's healthy and energetic, a former runner, but thanks for your concern.

Your suggestion that something else is going on here is just more Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt, aka S.O.P.

[Qutzupalotl]

54. Bullshit.

[underthematrix]

55. Thank you for your comment

[Qutzupalotl]

64. Well deserved.

[JonLeibowitz]

76. Wow, sexist and ageist in the same post. Brilliant! n/t

[Duckhunter935]

79. and a good hide

Amazing that three people are ok with that.

[CorporatistNation]

59. Sorrrryyyy... The Suit Is About Standing Up To Corruption AKA Debbie et al!

Integrity matters...

[KingFlorez]

22. You win the entire thread

This is truth that should not be denied.

[underthematrix]

2. #ImWithHer

Yes. I want my President to be well-educated, experienced and grounded in reality.

[murielm99]

4. This is an important endorsement.

K&R

[fwiff]

10. Meh. They endorsed her in 2008. She was last.

Obama won. Edwards was second. Clinton, last.

[murielm99]

50. Gee, it must be hard to

throw an entire newspaper and all its operations under a bus. It must be a big bus.

Like it or not, this is a sought after and prestigious endorsement.

[Iliyah]

5. Go Hillary!

[highprincipleswork]

7. Cough.

[underpants]

8. ..

[Thinkingabout]

12. Great endorsement, well stated also.

[Nanjeanne]

15. Congratulations - that's an honest endorsement

I am a Sanders supporter but I can agree that it's a great endorsement for Clinton to have.

Of course, being a Sanders supporter, I was curious to see how much influence their caucus endorsements have had. Here is a history of Register caucus endorsements, with the caucus winners and ultimate nominees:

1988

Republican: Bob Dole
Caucus winner: Dole. Nominee: George Bush

Democrat: Paul Simon
Caucus winner: Richard Gephardt. Nominee: Michael Dukakis

1992

None endorsed

(Sen. Tom Harkin ran in the Democratic caucus, so candidates largely skipped Iowa. Bill Clinton became the nominee; President George Bush ran largely unopposed on the Republican side.)

1996

Republican: Bob Dole
Caucus winner and nominee: Dole

2000

Republican: George W. Bush
Caucus winner and nominee: Bush

Democrat: Bill Bradley
Caucus winner and nominee: Al Gore

2004

Democrat: John Edwards
Caucus winner and nominee: John Kerry

2008

Republican: John McCain
Caucus winner: Mike Huckabee. Nominee: McCain

Democrat: Hillary Clinton
Caucus winner and nominee: Barack Obama

2012

Republican: Mitt Romney
Caucus winner: Rick Santorum. Nominee: Romney

So, I feel much better about the fact that their endorsement - while a nice win for Hillary - doesn't seem to have much sway with the actual caucus-goers.

[Punkingal]

16. Quelle surprise!

Snort!

[Alfresco]

17. Another high profile endorsement for Hillary. Outstanding!

[underthematrix]

34. Yes. And HRC is up in five out of six polls as of Thursday

[Alfresco]

40. Good news keeps on coming.

[book_worm]

19. Good endorsement, but newspaper endorsements mean little

They were for her in 2008, too, and she came in third.

[Fumesucker]

24. Exactly, she knew voting for the IWR was critical to her 2008 Presidential candidacy

She would have looked weak if she had opposed the war like the hippie peaceniks such as Bernie and Barack.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. Thanks for bumping my thread on this glorious day.

Earnestly and respectfully,
DSB

[angrychair]

25. We understand

All we need to know about how Clinton feels about us and Wall St. right here in these 13 little words:

"...reassured the crowd and told them that banker-bashing was unproductive and foolish,"

Got it.

https://theintercept.com/2016/01/23/clinton-goldman-sachs-laugh/

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511052378

[riversedge]

26. Whow!! I am so proud of you Hillary!!

[hrmjustin]

30. Great news!

[w4rma]

37. The Des Moines Register editorial board announces its endorsement of Marco Rubio

The Des Moines Register editorial board announces its endorsement of Marco Rubio for the Republican nomination for president.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/editorials/endorsement/2016/01/23/des-moines-register-iowa-caucus-endorsement-marco-rubio/79240264/

[Nedsdag]

38. This endorsement reads like Hillary's press release.

I guess DMR went to her website.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

43. They endorsed her in 2008 and she came third

they also endorsed Richard Nixon

[sadoldgirl]

44. I don't know much about this paper,

but congratulations to the HRC supporters anyway.


As far as my paper in CO is concerned though I
would never trust it.

Still, congratulations!

[FloridaBlues]

45. Great news for her and it is wonderful timing!

[Gothmog]

48. Des Moines Register Endorses Clinton.... In Presidential Race

This will help http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/des-moines-register-hillary-clinton-marco-rubio

The Des Moines Register editorial board announced on Saturday that it would endorse Hillary Clinton in the Democratic presidential primary and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) in the Republican primary.

The editorial board wrote that Clinton has the necessary experience to be president of the United States:

The presidency is not an entry-level position. Whoever is sworn into office next January must demonstrate not only a deep understanding of the issues facing America, but also possess the diplomatic skills that enable presidents to forge alliances to get things done.
By that measure, Democrats have one outstanding candidate deserving of their support: Hillary Clinton. No other candidate can match the depth or breadth of her knowledge and experience.

The Iowa paper wrote that Clinton is not "perfect candidate, as evidenced the way she has handled the furor over her private email server." But the editorial board said that it's "almost inconceivable" that Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) would be able to "remake Washington in his own image."

This endorsement will help some

[SidDithers]

56. DU rec...nt

Sid

[ypsfonos]

57. Hillary Clinton has needed knowledge, experience...She Still Does!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

58. Thank your for your input and kicking my thread.

May every day in your life be better than the day before.




With all the love and due respect in the world,
DSB

[DemocratSinceBirth]

63. We should let people vote first.

Earnestly and respectfully,
DSB

[DemocratSinceBirth]

66. I can not disparage my fellow Democrats.

I do hope to persuade them by my stellar example.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

69. "With malice toward none..."

[Logical]

72. Well, the poster is on a little vacation now. 5 hides in the last month. Probably a good thing. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

73. He was obviously being sarcastic, based on the content of his prior hides.

One needs to be circumspect or maybe he just doesn't care.


BTW, Lincoln was a truly great man. The fact that he came to the cause of the black man rather than starting as an adherent of it is what makes him truly great.

[Splinter Cell]

68. Christ! What stupidity.

Hillary doesn't have a snowball's chance in flaming hell of getting the GOP to work with her. WORST. CANDIDATE. EVER.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

71. I am detecting an undue amount of acrimony.

Hillary doesn't have a snowball's chance in flaming hell of getting the GOP to work with her. WORST. CANDIDATE. EVER.

I am detecting an undue amount of acrimony...Since empathy is the sine qua non of liberalism and I am a liberal maybe this song will make you feel better.

With Love,
DSB

[Gothmog]

70. For this thread

[B Calm]

74. They also endorse Marco Rubio too.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

75. Kasich and him are the least odious of a gallery of rogues.

And they had to endorse a Republicant as is custom.

[Alfresco]

78. Early A.M Kick :-)