2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumArt Garfunkel Net Worth: 45 MILLION
The establishment 1% supporting Bernie! blech... Bernie ought to denounce Art's allowing him to use his music!
LOL
DanTex
(20,709 posts)A couple guys who made a fortune selling ice cream to a country with an obesity epidemic.
You can only imagine if those two introduced Hillary at her campaign kickoff speech.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Human101948
(3,457 posts)Something you rarely hear from the Wall Street banksters and corporate crooks.
Artie or Ben and Jerry could impoverish themselves and donate all their money to the government (as I have often heard right wingers demanding) but it would be a futile gesture, a momentary blip on the radar screen.
However, if we have a system where all rich people pay more taxes than they do now, we just may be able to have some things we ream about now and pay down some debt that has been created by outrageous tax cuts for the wealthy.
How many of Hillary's wealthy supporters are calling for higher taxes on their incomes? That's a serious question, because there may be some.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Of course, that doesn't stop Hillary bashers from demonizing them solely because they are wealthy. Warren Buffett (I have no idea who he supports) has proposed higher taxes on the wealthy. The "Buffett rule" was his idea. George Soros is routinely demonized (I don't know who he supports either), and he's been very vocal about believing that he and other rich people should pay more taxes.
And so on.
The real question is are there any wealthy supporters of Hillary's who don't think that there should be higher taxes on the wealthy. Can you think of any?
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)That she hangs with
DanTex
(20,709 posts)I'm not sure who you have in mind. Is this based on any evidence or quotes, or is just a "feeling" you have?
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)For a quarter of a million each, did she even speak?
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)She who has been bought and paid for.
Unknown Beatle
(2,672 posts)raise taxes on the wealthy. But her actions speak louder than her words. She proposes raising taxes on the rich while accepting millions in speaking fees from wall st. firms. Saying it and meaning it are two different things.
Obama also said he would rein in wall st., and look how that turned out.
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)My youngest brother and his wife knew my husband and I earned more than they did and we were generous with gifts to their kids, but the wife got the idea I should just give them money because they wanted it. I put up with listening to her for years, but when my brother got a large settlement for asbestos exposure and they bought a 50 inch TV 20 years ago when it costs more than a lot for people without a pot to piss in, I realized that I had a toilet I could throw money in and flush and no longer needed to give them anything.
give money to corporatists to help people = flushing money down the toilet. It would mean another tax break for the rich, a lot like the balanced budget at the end of the Clinton admin, went into Bushes tax break for the rich, no matter what the complaints about the deficit.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)oasis
(49,338 posts)Uber rich supporters of Bernie knew the score before they threw in with him. They get to look "cool" and "with it" by supporting the "leftist" of the left Democrat, with full knowledge of Hillary's
inevitably.
karynnj
(59,498 posts)I know someone who worked for Ben and Jerry's when it was a young company in Burlington . Everything she says speaks of the type of respect for workers that we would want in all companies. By the way, it is entirely possible to eat any ice cream - even Ben and Jerrys - and still have a healthy diet. Every year, B & J in Burlington has a long line of people waiting to get their free cone on the company's anniversary.
Ben and Jerry have supported financially and verbally many many progressive, liberal efforts for years. Either would have been a major catch -- but I doubt HRC would have allotted them the honor of introducing her at her rally - it would not have satisfied any of the campaign team's planned optics.
They WERE Bernie's friends for decades.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Just pointing out that, while super-rich people routinely get bashed here, apparently being super-rich isn't so bad if you're a Bernie supporter.
Ben and Jerry seem like great guys. Good for Bernie for having them as friends for decades. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy -- two of Bernie's apparently close friends are worth upwards of $100M each. When Hillary has even acquaintances like that, it's bash bash bash.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)For example, Hillary is nowhere near as close with Dimon as Bernie is with Ben and Jerry.
questionseverything
(9,645 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)like HRC's bff Dimon has.
Ben and Jerry have never done anything negative to anyone(other than inadvertently raising the cholesterol levels of people who eat too much of their products).
DanTex
(20,709 posts)fans have gotten from reality. Ben and Jerry introduced Bernie at his first campaign event, there's simply no comparison.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Rich people who back HRC do so because they know she will put their class first...that's what "pragmatic" is code for.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)LOL. It's weird how you seem to think you have such insight into Hillary supporters.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)You have no reason to be belaboring this. It's not an injustice to point out the self-interest of rich people who back the rich people's candidate.
It's silly of you to act like rich HRC supporters are somehow victims here.
Why feel sorry for people who have everything?
DanTex
(20,709 posts)I certainly don't feel sorry for Hillary's wealthy supporters. Again, I'm just pointing out the staggering hypocrisy in the assumption that Hillary's supporters are acting in self-interest, while Bernie's are acting out of "pure goodness."
Like I said, supporting Bernie is more likely to help them financially, since if he gets the nomination, the odds of the GOP winning shoot way up. The real selfless rich people are the ones supporting Hillary, because she can actually win, and after that, she will actually be able to raise taxes on the wealthy. Rich people supporting Bernie are just having fun because they won't personally be affected by a GOP presidency.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)There is no way in hell Ben and Jerry would introduce Hillary Clinton at her campaign kickoff speeeeech.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)That seems to be the general theme. If you're rich and support Hillary, you're an evil 1%er, but supporting Bernie gives you a free pass.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)It is okay for wealthy people who are decent human being to support Hillary. That is not the yardstick.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)matter.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Just not as president.
As for hr supporters, it depends on how they make their money, what they do with their money, and the motivation for donating to Clinton -- actual belief or purchasing influence.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)None of the rich people who back HRC are taking that stand.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Of all the things you could care about, why THAT?
Or is the real argument here that Artie and Paul somehow owed HRC their support?
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)To back Bernie is to act purely on ideals and to utterly renounce self-interest in the choice.
It's different when the rich guy got rich as an artist(which means no exploitation was involved) and is being, in effect,, a traitor to his class.
Artie isn't expecting Bernie to protect him from any and all sacrifice.
This thread was an absurd stretch in the service of the most conservative candidate in the race.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)get lauded. It's hilarious. It's almost like a religious thing. Accept Bernie as your savior and everything is OK.
People who back Hillary also do it for the sake of ideals, obviously, and since nominating Bernie is the quickest way to a GOP presidency, they are the ones who are truly sacrificing personal wealth for the better of society.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Only the tiny handful of rich people who back Bernie do that.
No hypocrisy.
questionseverything
(9,645 posts)you support millions of people going without healthcare....which yes, seems evil to me
DanTex
(20,709 posts)and expanding access to more people. Supporting Bernie means either ushering in a GOP president or else keeping the status quo in place while wasting years trying to push a pipe dream through congress.
questionseverything
(9,645 posts)she is the embodiment of the out of touch politician...what she considers affordable for us is ridiculous
for the 55 plus set that pay 3 times as much for coverage the aca is undoable ...for a couple over 55 an 8% premium plus another 10% a piece for the out of pocket is 28%...working people do not have that kind of disposable income
we lost what should of been a permanent democratic majority in '10 because of the corporate sponsored ideas that hc campaigned on which were no public option,mandates and penalties
her idea to limit prescription costs to 250 bucks a month? still much too expensive and if that cap is subsidized then it is just another tax payer give away to big pharma
<shrugs>
SamKnause
(13,088 posts)part of the establishment ???
I think our definitions of what constitutes 'the establishment' differs.
boston bean
(36,219 posts)than the all the other millionaires out there....
But any who don't support Bernie are just evil incarnate... OK.
Will you please answer my question ???
Are lottery winners part of the establishment ???
boston bean
(36,219 posts)SamKnause
(13,088 posts)boston bean
(36,219 posts)into a different category according to his supporters.
SamKnause
(13,088 posts)If you are the CEO of a corporation or organization that gives endorsements.
The owners of Wall Mart, Monsanto, Boeing, GM, etc.
The lobbyists for Wall Street, for the pharmaceutical corporations, for the MIC, and for the war profiteers.
Not all wealthy people are part of the establishment.
boston bean
(36,219 posts)I mean, that is what I am hearing...
PP HRC Unions who endorse and help Hillary are also NOT establishment. Yet the candidate calls them that, and his supporters lap it up.
The POST was sarcasm btw. Sorry, you missed it.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)Once I got invited to a $500 per person fund raiser - for a Democrat.
That made me wonder - what kind of people can afford to give $500 to a candidate?
Not necessarily CEOs, but some fairly rich people, people making say, over $100,000 a year.
I tend to support tax increases on those kind of people. So the question is - if I am getting money from those people, am I likely to support increasing their taxes? Are they likely to keep supporting me if I do?
I think it is naive to discount the political clout of the 80th to 98th percentile. They have more income than the legendary 1%. They probably put themselves first in many ways - without even thinking about it. That's only human, after all.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Simon and Garfunkel's success never once involved inflicting injustice on anybody.
MariaThinks
(2,495 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)The millions who have supported him (hint: large... VERY LARGE number in the ratio) are just working class.
Any idea who the millionaire and billionaires or corporations are supporting HRC? Of course, we can't know that since Citizen's United. Gee...
quickesst
(6,280 posts).... that if a person did win 200 million dollars in the lottery, the odds are that he or she would soon be.
SamKnause
(13,088 posts)to political leaders, CEO's, Wall Street insiders, the MIC, etc. ???
I guess our definition of establishment differs.
quickesst
(6,280 posts)According to many Bernie supporters, money is the root of all evil, because without money there is no influence. Who is to say that a person coming in to that kind of money would not use it to gain political favor? 200 million dollars would buy a great deal of it. With money comes power, and none but the naive would believe that most would not take advantage of it in some form or another.
SamKnause
(13,088 posts)I dream of winning the lottery all the time.
I have been playing on and off since the 1980's.
I spent $1.00 on Tuesday and on Friday.
I have typed up a list of family members, friends, acquaintances,
and charities that I want to give to.
Never once, not once in all my years of dreaming have I ever dreamed
of attaining any kind of power.
Maybe I am the oddball out.
quickesst
(6,280 posts)And I think there are many people with intentions similar to yours, but I also think there are many people including those with similar intentions who abuse their windfall once it is attained. Spreading money around for selfish gains and influence is something we don't often hear about.... because we're not supposed to know. Money changes a lot of people. As for winning a lottery, don't get me started. I dropped a few bucks on a wish and a prayer myself.
mcar
(42,278 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)I hope HRC supporters are getting paid big $$. Cause they're certainly working overtime these days.
artislife
(9,497 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)boston bean
(36,219 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)boston bean
(36,219 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)boston bean
(36,219 posts)riversedge
(70,093 posts)Wilms
(26,795 posts)Response to Wilms (Reply #7)
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In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)Welcome to DU
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Jesus loves you more than you will know...
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)GO FIG-Yah! (It's a REAL dilemma that there WOULD be one)
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Yeah, that's Establishment.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)#berniesoestablishment he flies coach!
polly7
(20,582 posts)I bet Clinton's campaign headquarters if frustrated beyond belief that a completely honest, trustworthy man is running against her.
But ........... hmmm, maybe not. It does make for good, imaginative slander campaigns where anything goes and you can just throw all sorts of shit at the walls to see what might stick. Racism, sexism, his 'allegiance' to Israel, etc. etc. - this thread.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)And you're right, that's why she's sending her surrogates after Bernie, she's panicking.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Successful people who support Bernie-Good folks. Glad that BSS have sorted that out for us.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)boston bean
(36,219 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)There are those who earn their money and those who kill people for wealth. Hillary and the GOP want both to keep it and make more, so they'll make another war or two.
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reddread
(6,896 posts)so glad we were able to see them nearby with the Everly Bros.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)thanks for posting that.
underpants
(182,632 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)I don't know jack shit about Art Garfunkels politics but I do know Sen Sanders asked him if he could use that song in an ad and he consented.
How the hell you can make a leap from that fact to your ridiculous statement that it proves that the 1% supports Bernie is beyond my comprehension.
You should count to 1000 before you post anymore drivel like that.
boston bean
(36,219 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)boston bean
(36,219 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)elias49
(4,259 posts)stupidity, not so much.
boston bean
(36,219 posts)Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Establishment is not a number.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Wait, yes you did!
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Whether Art Garfunkel acquires a net worth of $1 or $45 million isn't the issue. It's the fair distribution of any wealth, and why that has over the last 40 years been RE-DISTRIBUTED to the upper 1%?
I see you haven't listened to the message yet. It's there for you. You might stop your insults and false analogies long enough to listen to it.
Does the message offend you? Tell me that when you've actually listened to it.
boston bean
(36,219 posts)elias49
(4,259 posts)Bwahahaha!
Maybe Art will get as position in Hill's cultural attache?
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)I believe you just said that, and now you should explain why.
See how this works? You don't make up things that I've said, and meanwhile explain the things that you've said. Are you going to play games? Are you all about non-sequiturs today?
boston bean
(36,219 posts)I guess my question came from your words:
What should be done to be sure wealth is fairly distributed and should Art be a part of that?
polly7
(20,582 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)But, I've decided over the last several weeks that I would follow suite as I do when I phone bank. I've gotten a sense of who is struggling out there, getting bashed over the head with endless corporately run TV ads. They then get a call from a real person, and there's a real sense of ... "huh?" there... If someone wants to engage me, I listen. They're being prodded to be scared to death. Let's hope whatever made them a Democrat will pull them through this endless advertising from the 1%.
I'm asking people here to do the same, almost fully understand that they don't wish to. I have to assume that it really hurts them now. I'm going through this with my own sister, who's reached the point in her support of HRC that she wants to turn everything off. She can't identify where the hate is coming from, but it is not coming from Bernie Sanders, for sure.
I'll at least I can try to have the decency to ask them to think. I'm not sure how long I can be that way. I notice that all the usual comments, when I respond to in this manner, are never answered. That tells me that it's very difficult for them.
They're going to need healing of some widening wounds they are inflicting upon themselves.
polly7
(20,582 posts)You're trying to help people sort out the reality of what so many are suffering and the confusion over what's caused it. Sanders points out in every speech exactly what's caused it but is never followed by the corporate run media that spews the same old propaganda it always has. I don't envy you for your hard work in trying to help others at least try to, as you say ... think - but I admire you greatly for it.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)It's actually therapeutic for me. I ran a clean campaign myself and served honestly x 5 years as a councilwoman. The hate (almost constantly around me, believe it or not, mostly from Dems who didn't like my questioning wrong doing or cronyism) caused an internal evolution, so to speak.
I have grown a good skin around this one person's role in this campaign. Now it makes sense to me to go through that kind of shit in real life. It clarifies MUCH!
polly7
(20,582 posts)I wouldn't have the patience to put up with that kind of hate.
Sanders is very lucky to have people like you and I completely believe he's going to win!
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Go figure...
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)But, the authority jones is pretty strong.
They have to be told, and they lack doing the services of listening to the message. We have to be prepared for a LOT of mending after it's clear that ALL THIS deception .... ALL THIS POLITICALLY CONTROLLED corporate grabbing the established mouth pieces by the short hairs... It will not get anywhere, and there will be lots of wounds that have to be healed.
You knew that anyway, though.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)45 million isn't chump change.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)karynnj
(59,498 posts)The values that Paul Simon, in particular, has shown over a lifetime are good -- you are just sad that these two wonderful men aren't with Hillary like Demi Lovato.
boston bean
(36,219 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Endorsements over anyone who endorses Sanders
pangaia
(24,324 posts)there is nothing I can do to explain it.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)This
polly7
(20,582 posts)Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)NT
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)inequality...and is willing to join in? Are you kidding me? Maybe those who are not wealthy can not understand why those who are wealthy would like to see income inequality disturbed and made at least a bit more equal. It's not g oing to make him poor, but it will improve the life of a poor person who was not so blessed.
Does it makes this his music bad? ...similar knee jerk.
Remember, there are tons of voters who had been chided regularly for voting against their own needs. Those, we like to call Republicans.
Well, Art is intelligent, talented, socially conscious and fully aware that his needs can become more in line with the general population. Many give generously to Progressive causes. How someone can frame that as an "Aha...See There?" is beyond me.
Ron Green
(9,822 posts)You're today's winner!
demmiblue
(36,824 posts)Gothmog
(144,945 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)karynnj
(59,498 posts)OVERVIEW: Paul Simon cofounded the Children's Health Fund (CHF), which donates and staffs mobile medical vans that bring health care to poor and indigent children in urban and rural locations around the United States. Simon has also raised funds for groups such as amfAR, The Nature Conservancy, Fund for Imprisoned Children in South Africa, Autism Speaks, and Joe Torre Safe At Home Foundation.
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ISSUES:
CHILDREN'S HEALTH FUND: Paul Simon and Dr. Irwin Redlener founded Children's Health Fund in 1987 after touring Martinique Hotel, a shelter for homeless families in New York City. The New York Children's Health Project was the first program in what would eventually become Children's Health Fund's national network of programs. The program began with one big blue bus, "a state-of-the-art mobile medical clinic that would bring care directly to those children with the least access." Over the years, Children's Health Fund has applied this formula across the country and provides care through innovative pediatric care programs and affiliates that serve children in poor communities across the country.
Children's Health Fund has also "campaigned in support of expanding health insurance coverage for low-income children, as well as public health programs that provide a critical safety net for millions of medically underserved children." In the 1990s, Children's Health Fund launched Kids First, Kids Now!, "a public education and advocacy campaign that focused national attention on the need for a true health care safety net for all of Americas children." The fund has also assistes those affected by natural disasters, including Hurricane Andrew, and more recently, Hurricane Katrina.
OTHER: Simon has also raised funds for outfits such as amfAR (which works in AIDS research), Nature Conservancy, Fund for Imprisoned Children in South Africa, Autism Speaks, and the Joe Torre Safe At Home Foundation, which aims to end the cycle of domestic violence.
http://www.insidephilanthropy.com/glitzy-giving/paul-simon.html
Ben and Jerry's has long donated a portion of their profits to charity - http://benandjerrysfoundation.org/
Armstead
(47,803 posts)First of all Bernie is not about punishing success or abolishing wealth. It is about shifting the balance that has become skewed towards the upper brackets at the expense of everyone else. That does not mean no one will be allowed to be wealthy under a Sanders administration.
Art made his money by writing and singing songs that a lot of peope have enjoyed over the years. He didn't make his mioney by screwing over workers, consumers, messing up the environment or skewing our laws and policies.
Third, I am pretty sure he is smart enough to realize that taxes might eat into his income somewhat, and he still gave his blessing. Being wealthy does not automatically make one a selfish jerk.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)You deserve a trophy.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Over and over again, their "gotcha!!!!" is as shallow and stupid as the one in this OP.
Most rich people being out to fuck over the 99% is not the same as all rich people being out to fuck over the 99%. You know this. Yet here you are, trying to claim the opposite because you think it's a wonderful "gotcha!!!".
Please stop pretending the rest of us are utter fucking morons. It is utterly insulting, and creates discord that will last LONG past the primaries.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)I mean everyone slows down and stares at the fatal car crash as the cops wave them by, few of us can resist the temptation to ogle something really hideous with horrified fascination.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)better myself.
And you are absolutely right that this will create discord that will last long past the primaries. Look at what happened in 2008. Many, many people have not gotten over the dirty tricks, racist comments, and outright lies Clinton spewed at President Obama.
I would imagine that there are more than a few Bernie Sanders supporters that resent her for that, too.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)He'd still be backing Bernie if he were broke, y'know.
awake
(3,226 posts)Soon 99.5% of America will come together for "the Bern" he is becoming unstoppable when even a 1%er backs him, that is the point of your OP right?
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Based on the ignorance on display in the OP, I'm guessing not...
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)The far left has some hatred of wealth, yet they love smartphones, computers, cars, etc.....
Hypocrites.
cali
(114,904 posts)Bernie has fucking never said that crap.
You are a picture perfect hilly supporter. Honesty is dispensable. Just make stuff up blithely. Ugh. Sickening.
polly7
(20,582 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)in Africa today have cell phones, they drive small cars, and have tablets, don't you?
Just because someone has an issue of the rich owning this country, does not mean that we do not want technology that could not be brought about without the workers, or the 99%.
If you love the rich so much, I suggest that you join the opposition to the Democratic Party. It is more where you belong.
We actual Democrats don't hate the wealthy, we just hate when the legally steal it from the rest of us, and want EVERYTHING!
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)You are really starting to embarrass yourselves.
artislife
(9,497 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)This is nothing...
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artislife
(9,497 posts)Because this is too silly to be a serious OP.
Roy Ellefson
(279 posts)this attack is identical to what right wingers did to Al Gore and his support for environmental causes...or any wealthy person who supports truly progressive causes. Is this Free Republic?
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Art Garfunkel Net Worth: 45 MILLION
closeupready
(29,503 posts)hysterically at lots of nothing, subsequent to witnessing the reanimation of Amenhotep's mummy?
Why am I reminded of that now?
Threadstarter is laughing at her own jokes now, and the parallels are scary.
Nanjeanne
(4,915 posts)Why are Clinton supporters trying to make this a class war? Bernie never said people shouldn't have wealth. He just said they should pay their fair share of taxes. Bernie never said we should denounce people who have wealth. Only stop the uber wealthy from buying elections, from scamming people through greedy Wall Street tactics, and to encourage wealthy business to pay taxes and fair wages instead of all profits going yo their CEO and exec management.
Democrats used to embrace those issues.
I don't know why it surprises me but it continuously does that some Clinton supporters seem to grasp onto the most simplistic things and make such blatantly silly and disingenuous statements.
bklyncowgirl
(7,960 posts)It is true that Simon and Garfunkle (Simon in particular) are rich. They made their money by creating music that people wanted to hear. They were the right group with the right music at the right time. Nothing wrong with that. Maybe they have some clout in the music industry but that's about it.
Saying that the wealthy should pay more in taxes is not exactly "From each according to his ability to each according to his needs."
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)Methinks you know nothing of their music. This is one helluva pant load.
Any credibility you may have once had has just blown out the door.
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)Bernie is a sell-out to the 1%%%%%errsss. OLIGARCHS!
Great catch!
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Seriously, I feel like I should pay for this.
Bernblu
(441 posts)What a campaign tactic! Did David Brock approve? Perhaps, Hillary can run an ad in Iowa and NH. I don't think it would work because unlike your candidate, Art actually earned his wealth.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)What a winning strategy!
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)It is mocking the phony talking points about 1%ers since BS and his supporters have no problem hobnobbing with REALLY RICH people. As long as they support Bernie.
Another deceptive FAIL for you.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I leave it to the gentle reader to determine for themselves whether they believe Ms. Lovato's contributions to the universe of music and entertainment are really worth 44% of those of Art Garfunkel.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)You should get informed, the one percent is a billionaire class.
nolabels
(13,133 posts)And as far as i can surmise that .001% are not the evil incarnate but rather the end result of a bad system that was built to get them there. This kind of thing has happened many times before so do we learn from it this time or have to keep it, tear it down, get angry at it or cogently figure out ways to just make it not work that way anymore? It's going to have to be our collective choice if it's going to change.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Let's focus on the real evil.
nolabels
(13,133 posts)The structures that those billionaires dwell in some cases have been built over or a century or more. That in fact mucks up a lot of things. It is something that has to dealt with and that cannot be disassembled even with an assembled power with just a few notices. As a matter of fact that structure if it were to made less it will have to stay erected till any of it is replaced because all the money that is off shored. Placing an evil sign on something just makes it unapproachable and unsaleable to change
Orsino
(37,428 posts)...and will push his infrastructure agenda of building bridges over troubled water.
wavesofeuphoria
(525 posts)Art's money is from being an artist, musician, etc.
The Clintons have been in "public service".
Corporate feminist just don't seem to get. Perhaps some intersectional feminists might enlighten them about the effects of oligarchy on women, POC, children. Until then, keep pushing these memes ...