Sun Jan 24, 2016, 07:38 PM

Odin2005 (53,521 posts)

I'm getting the feeling that Hillary supporters live in a bubble and...

...don't get how much anger, hate, and rage the average American has towards the Establishment right now. There are only 2 people in this race right now speaking to this rage, Trump and Sanders. The rest are, like Hillary, poo-pooing it and telling us worthless peons that we have no right to be angry.

If it is Hillary versus Trump in the general election TRUMP WILL WIN because of that rage. Hillary is DESPISED by most people outside of the narrow political news junkie bubble. I know a lot of Low-information, a-political people who like both Sanders AND Trump and if Sanders is not the nominee and Trump is they WILL vote for Trump.

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I'm getting the feeling that Hillary supporters live in a bubble and... (Original post)	Odin2005	Jan 2016	OP
I think hate and rage is too strong of a word. Utter disgust, definitely. n/t	Skwmom	Jan 2016	#1
I had the same reaction	farleftlib	Jan 2016	#4
I live in NY, not a bubble.	hrmjustin	Jan 2016	#2
NY is a bubble, or at least NYC is.	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#3
Have you been here?	hrmjustin	Jan 2016	#5
No, but I have heard plenty of stuff about how insular...	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#8
So you judge us by what you "heard".	hrmjustin	Jan 2016	#9
They been listening to Ted Cruz n/t	doc03	Jan 2016	#14
Lol yes.	hrmjustin	Jan 2016	#17
No.	ChairmanAgnostic	Jan 2016	#69
Have you ever met Bernie? You judge him freely and frequently without even knowing the man.	Ed Suspicious	Jan 2016	#36
No he hasn't come for tea time.	hrmjustin	Jan 2016	#40
Tea time?	sulphurdunn	Jan 2016	#76
I try!	hrmjustin	Jan 2016	#77
That is all one can do, really.	sulphurdunn	Jan 2016	#83
I love tea!	mcar	Jan 2016	#118
That makes no sense. You don't judge Hillary?	Rose Siding	Jan 2016	#82
Ed is using irony to point out hypocrisy...and doing a good job of it.	Bubzer	Jan 2016	#123
yup	Skittles	Jan 2016	#87
and some folks have the audacity to tell other folks that they live in a bubble, when by all	still_one	Jan 2016	#154
You've never been there but you "heard" the people there are in a bubble?	Empowerer	Jan 2016	#50
You need to schedule a trip to NYC	GP6971	Jan 2016	#72
I was speaking more of their reputation for thinking they are the center of the world...	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#78
"Simply everyone who is anyone is here!"	Warren DeMontague	Jan 2016	#20
And?	hrmjustin	Jan 2016	#23
No, no bubbles here.	Warren DeMontague	Jan 2016	#38
I have been to NYC, and while I love it,	SheilaT	Jan 2016	#73
I've been there.	MrChuck	Jan 2016	#86
Since NYC has been Disneyfied	RoccoR5955	Jan 2016	#109
I live in NY	RoccoR5955	Jan 2016	#106
Do you people have any clue	Cosmocat	Jan 2016	#157
People here in Middle America being annoyed at Big City arrogance is "conservative", now?	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#166
So, to be clear	Cosmocat	Jan 2016	#168
Those shock jocks repeat it because there is a ring of truth to it.	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#169
Its bullshit	Cosmocat	Jan 2016	#170
Do you think the Populist Party 120 years ago was in a bubble?	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#171
In all big cities,	sulphurdunn	Jan 2016	#74
Yes but most of NYC residents are not rich.	hrmjustin	Jan 2016	#80
And they don't live in bubbles.	sulphurdunn	Jan 2016	#88
Ok but most of us are all working stiffs.	hrmjustin	Jan 2016	#90
Wherever we live,	sulphurdunn	Jan 2016	#105
This interests me.	phylny	Jan 2016	#85
I was raised in a large west coast city.	sulphurdunn	Jan 2016	#102
I'm probably not far from you,	phylny	Jan 2016	#111
The one thing diversity and big cities do	sulphurdunn	Jan 2016	#116
Funny, I live there too	zentrum	Jan 2016	#100
I live in a wofking class neighborhood so i don't run into elites much.	hrmjustin	Jan 2016	#101
And do you travel around	zentrum	Jan 2016	#121
I go to church in the village so I am very aware of what the rich have done there.	hrmjustin	Jan 2016	#122
Then I'm baffled	zentrum	Jan 2016	#172
True. It's so many bubbles it qualifies as foam.	Spitfire of ATJ	Jan 2016	#108
LOL!	TransitJohn	Jan 2016	#115
Politicians who speak to "rage" are called ideologues. And yes, that's what Sanders is.	KittyWampus	Jan 2016	#6
Well said!	hrmjustin	Jan 2016	#7
And Hillary WILL survive the "right-wing attack machine"?	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#12
Ya think a Socialist will n/t	doc03	Jan 2016	#19
Yes, because he will offer a clear moral and policy alternative,	Warren DeMontague	Jan 2016	#21
He has about as much chance getting any of his pie	doc03	Jan 2016	#25
NO WE CAN'T! NO WE CAN'T!	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#27
because obviously, Hillary cannot run on the issues.	Warren DeMontague	Jan 2016	#34
Uplifting, isn't it?	John Poet	Jan 2016	#81
And what's Hillary going to get passed with the GOP congress? More money for the drug war?	Warren DeMontague	Jan 2016	#41
Pie in the sky you say?	retrowire	Jan 2016	#63
I bought a couple of tickets in the last big go-'round	Android3.14	Jan 2016	#107
What is Hillary going to get Republicans to agree with her on?	LondonReign2	Jan 2016	#156
Socialist is not a dirty word, anymore...	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#26
She has for decades	KittyWampus	Jan 2016	#131
She already has for 2 decades	redstateblues	Jan 2016	#132
She already has - for at least 20 years.	Lil Missy	Jan 2016	#155
Instead of being despised now like h. nt	artislife	Jan 2016	#30
Hillary is despised NOW....	John Poet	Jan 2016	#84
99% spot on	Cosmocat	Jan 2016	#158
everyone i know is for bernie or trump	restorefreedom	Jan 2016	#10
This is going to be the biggest election for a long time.	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#18
definitely. popcorn makers, take notice! nt	restorefreedom	Jan 2016	#28
Presto Hot Air popper is on standby!	Karma13612	Jan 2016	#71
yum....and go bernie! nt	restorefreedom	Jan 2016	#126
Every one you know?	murielm99	Jan 2016	#103
hillary has a LOT less support	restorefreedom	Jan 2016	#127
You are pretty self-rightous.........Making up likes about Hillary and her supporters. Shame on you	riversedge	Jan 2016	#11
The only liar here is Hillary.	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#13
You got alerted.	Aerows	Jan 2016	#47
Wow, some people have thin skins!	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#52
I guess alerter doesn't know that Hillary IS a liar.	hobbit709	Jan 2016	#56
True, that.	ChairmanAgnostic	Jan 2016	#70
It's hard to see the "little, insignificant" flyover people from midtown manhattan, dahh-ling.	Warren DeMontague	Jan 2016	#15
Somebody tell that to hrmjustin!	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#22
Maybe you live in a bubble and NYC is more than Manhattan.	hrmjustin	Jan 2016	#31
America is not NYC. NYC is not America	Health Wagon	Jan 2016	#60
What are we then?	hrmjustin	Jan 2016	#62
That's your problem right there.	Health Wagon	Jan 2016	#66
We don't claim to be all that is America.	hrmjustin	Jan 2016	#67
NYC is not America?	Skittles	Jan 2016	#89
No no, I'm saying NYC is not just America.	Health Wagon	Jan 2016	#96
I don't think ANYONE said that	Skittles	Jan 2016	#124
could not be any more wrong	taught_me_patience	Jan 2016	#16
This sounds a lot like "OMG, we can't talk about class warfare, it's divisive!!!"	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#24
Something uplifting like this perhaps?	Fumesucker	Jan 2016	#32
NO WE CAN'T	grasswire	Jan 2016	#55
I'm sure you don't see that the exact same argument can be made about Sanders supporters right?	mythology	Jan 2016	#29
The only people I know who like Hillary are...	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#33
Baloney. That's apathy and ignorance.	babylonsister	Jan 2016	#42
Ah, the Pauline Kael effect (nt)	Recursion	Jan 2016	#65
This older middle class woman does not like Hillary.	SheilaT	Jan 2016	#75
This older, upper-middle-class woman supports	phylny	Jan 2016	#93
Condescending B.S.	Beacool	Jan 2016	#130
The truth hurts.	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#137
The hate towards the "establishment" is not by Hillary or her supporters.	Thinkingabout	Jan 2016	#35
We are all in bubbles	Kalidurga	Jan 2016	#37
There is some truth in what you say.	OrwellwasRight	Jan 2016	#39
I live in Vermont	handmade34	Jan 2016	#43
Exactly! n/t	phylny	Jan 2016	#94
I am voting Bernie	Cosmocat	Jan 2016	#159
I'm feeling another McGovern/Dukakis landslide if Sanders' supporters prevail. n/t	Hoyt	Jan 2016	#44
It is not 1972.	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#46
It's 2016 and not much has changed. Your post does not support your argument.	Hoyt	Jan 2016	#51
The independents I know like Sanders more than they like Hillary.	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#54
I'm feeling a Mondale disaster if Hillary is nominated...	John Poet	Jan 2016	#91
Do you judge people by their spouse, and what has Clinton been indicated for?	Hoyt	Jan 2016	#112
I would expect to hear a RW or Fox says things like that--not a DU member. Shameful	riversedge	Jan 2016	#125
I would expect to hear "Fox says" when Hillary talks	John Poet	Jan 2016	#139
Count on it	redstateblues	Jan 2016	#133
You desribed my whole	840high	Jan 2016	#45
What I find interesting is the difference	sadoldgirl	Jan 2016	#48
The establishment doesn't get it because they imagine themselves so lovable. nt	mhatrw	Jan 2016	#49
They is Lovable don't cha'know, they try tell us everyday, read about it in their top dollar outlets	nolabels	Jan 2016	#64
they see themselves as our bosses and representatives--of ALL the people, from commoner randos	MisterP	Jan 2016	#79
Hello?	MrWendel	Jan 2016	#53
Supporters of Sanders are not low information. Why do you think they are so disgusted? n/t	Skwmom	Jan 2016	#57
You misread what I posted.	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#58
You are right. I did. Sorry about that. n/t	Skwmom	Jan 2016	#148
Will you vote for Trump?	Renew Deal	Jan 2016	#59
Fuck no, of course not!	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#61
The System IS Rigged	gordyfl	Jan 2016	#68
Glad to see that you identify your candidate with Trump	Tarc	Jan 2016	#92
Thanks for showing that you don't get it.	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#95
Being angry isn't a quality that I look for in a president	Tarc	Jan 2016	#97
A bubble of money most likely.	fbc	Jan 2016	#98
The strongest bubble there is.	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#99
It's more like a dank, dark cave than a bubble	Proserpina	Jan 2016	#104
Damn right they do.	RoccoR5955	Jan 2016	#110
"Many are only concerned to get a female as president." Exactly!	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#135
Hillary would THUMP TRUMP. You are saying things that are FLAWED on so many levels.	RBInMaine	Jan 2016	#113
I do not think that the word "hate" is too strong...	SoapBox	Jan 2016	#114
It is not just her supporters. The Ironworkers here in MN	jwirr	Jan 2016	#117
As a Minnesotan that is really disappointing.	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#147
Yes, for me also. Friends said that you have to be at the	jwirr	Jan 2016	#162
I disagree that Trump could beat Hillary	Jack Rabbit	Jan 2016	#119
oh my god! The hate, and rage and anger over Hillary Clinton is very apparent here on du.	Lil Missy	Jan 2016	#120
The far right and far left EQUALLY live in their respective bubbles.	Dawson Leery	Jan 2016	#128
Bernie would be considered a centrist in Europe.	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#136
exactly! and both ends are equally destructive.	Lil Missy	Jan 2016	#138
A drowning person will drag you down with them, not deliberately but out of desperation	Fumesucker	Jan 2016	#140
and none of that is in conflict with Hillary Clinton's goals for the nation.	Lil Missy	Jan 2016	#141
Hillary's idea of "dead broke" and actual dead broke are two entirely different things	Fumesucker	Jan 2016	#145
You make mountains out of molehills.	Lil Missy	Jan 2016	#149
It's not all relative	Fumesucker	Jan 2016	#151
I think that Sanders' supporters are the ones living in a bubble.	Beacool	Jan 2016	#129
+1	Dawson Leery	Jan 2016	#134
I get the feeling they shuttle from climate controlled buildings	raouldukelives	Jan 2016	#142
Those in glass houses ...	Cosmocat	Jan 2016	#143
Well said	Beaverhausen	Jan 2016	#152
I think if Hillary is the nominee the only way she wins is with Republican votes.	Vinca	Jan 2016	#144
I think DC is the bubble. n/t	Skwmom	Jan 2016	#146
There are many bubbles people live in.	MineralMan	Jan 2016	#150
You got it all wrong	Thenewire	Jan 2016	#153
"Sanders is an extremist candidate" Are you fucking serious???	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#167
Trump and Sanders... I agree that some of their supporters	ecstatic	Jan 2016	#160
I lived in and around NYC for 65 years	mikehiggins	Jan 2016	#161
We really don't need any more inflammatory broad-brushing...	Orsino	Jan 2016	#163
It's interesting: the PC-obsessed crowd absolutely created Trump, and the 1% absolutely...	MadDAsHell	Jan 2016	#164
Who advised her that "Nope and No Change"	Warren Stupidity	Jan 2016	#165

Response to Odin2005 (Original post)

Sun Jan 24, 2016, 07:39 PM

Skwmom (12,685 posts)

I'm getting the feeling that Hillary supporters live in a bubble and...

1. I think hate and rage is too strong of a word. Utter disgust, definitely. n/t

4. I had the same reaction

2. I live in NY, not a bubble.

3. NY is a bubble, or at least NYC is.

5. Have you been here?

8. No, but I have heard plenty of stuff about how insular...

9. So you judge us by what you "heard".

14. They been listening to Ted Cruz n/t

17. Lol yes.

69. No.

36. Have you ever met Bernie? You judge him freely and frequently without even knowing the man.

40. No he hasn't come for tea time.

76. Tea time?

77. I try!

83. That is all one can do, really.

118. I love tea!

82. That makes no sense. You don't judge Hillary?

123. Ed is using irony to point out hypocrisy...and doing a good job of it.

87. yup

154. and some folks have the audacity to tell other folks that they live in a bubble, when by all

50. You've never been there but you "heard" the people there are in a bubble?

72. You need to schedule a trip to NYC

78. I was speaking more of their reputation for thinking they are the center of the world...

20. "Simply everyone who is anyone is here!"

23. And?

38. No, no bubbles here.

73. I have been to NYC, and while I love it,

86. I've been there.

109. Since NYC has been Disneyfied

106. I live in NY

157. Do you people have any clue

166. People here in Middle America being annoyed at Big City arrogance is "conservative", now?

168. So, to be clear

169. Those shock jocks repeat it because there is a ring of truth to it.

170. Its bullshit

171. Do you think the Populist Party 120 years ago was in a bubble?

74. In all big cities,

80. Yes but most of NYC residents are not rich.

88. And they don't live in bubbles.

90. Ok but most of us are all working stiffs.

105. Wherever we live,

85. This interests me.

102. I was raised in a large west coast city.

111. I'm probably not far from you,

116. The one thing diversity and big cities do

100. Funny, I live there too

101. I live in a wofking class neighborhood so i don't run into elites much.

121. And do you travel around

122. I go to church in the village so I am very aware of what the rich have done there.

172. Then I'm baffled

108. True. It's so many bubbles it qualifies as foam.

115. LOL!

6. Politicians who speak to "rage" are called ideologues. And yes, that's what Sanders is.

7. Well said!

12. And Hillary WILL survive the "right-wing attack machine"?

19. Ya think a Socialist will n/t

21. Yes, because he will offer a clear moral and policy alternative,

25. He has about as much chance getting any of his pie

27. NO WE CAN'T! NO WE CAN'T!

34. because obviously, Hillary cannot run on the issues.

81. Uplifting, isn't it?

41. And what's Hillary going to get passed with the GOP congress? More money for the drug war?

63. Pie in the sky you say?

107. I bought a couple of tickets in the last big go-'round

156. What is Hillary going to get Republicans to agree with her on?

26. Socialist is not a dirty word, anymore...

131. She has for decades

132. She already has for 2 decades

155. She already has - for at least 20 years.

30. Instead of being despised now like h. nt

84. Hillary is despised NOW....

158. 99% spot on

10. everyone i know is for bernie or trump

18. This is going to be the biggest election for a long time.

28. definitely. popcorn makers, take notice! nt

71. Presto Hot Air popper is on standby!

126. yum....and go bernie! nt

103. Every one you know?

127. hillary has a LOT less support