2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary claimed that she has been fighting Homophobic Inequality for 40 years.
Anyone buy that one?
Anyone???
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Do we need to take a look at the video evidence? I do know she had opportunity to defend marriage, you know, the union of one man and one woman. Who she was defending it from is open to interpretation, I guess.
Nyan
(1,192 posts)Homophobia must be well distributed? What is she saying?
She had a Sarah Palin world salad moment with that whole section of her presentation.
I think we all knew what she was getting at. But she has been for LGBT equality since 1975? Baloney. I'd call bullshit on that for pretty much 99% of all US politicians except for Harvey Milk.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)bill have been abysmal on this issue for forty years. Don't ask, don't tell anyone?
OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)Health Wagon
(99 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)Health Wagon
(99 posts)Just mentally ignore him.
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)You, know like the "God hates gays" church group. I believe Clinton has been telling people who don't like that clan and tries to stop them from protesting funerals to "just cut it out"
Not sure though.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)She was not perfect but i am glad when people get it right.
DaGimpster
(130 posts)Perhaps the answer is moot given your response, but still.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)That was my whole point.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)But when they get it right it makes me happy.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Besides, that wasn't just one moment. She was on record as opposing same sex marriage until the polls showed that a majority of Americans supported it.
She is, was and will always be in the bottom 47% of the entire population on this issue. Not just the bottom 47% of politicians. The bottom 47% of every person in America.
What she said was a flat out uncomplicated lie.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)I think all she saw was the poll numbers, but neither of us will ever be able to prove why she flipped. Only that she did it after the polls showed that over half the country was in favor of marriage equality.
Health Wagon
(99 posts)Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #24)
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Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Her 40 years of advocacy is a complete and utter fabrication.
I HAVE SPENT DECADES FIGHTING FOR GAY RIGHTS. LBGTQ RIGHTS. I marched organize fundraised advocated SOMETIMES WTIH A BABY ON MY BACK. and got arrested (sans baby).
Defend that video hrmjustin
I know that I will not get a response.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)I am glad she finslly got it right on marriage equality.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)karynnj
(59,474 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)2001.
DaGimpster
(130 posts)I understand what you are trying to say, and I am also glad she saw the light on this issue.
However, to folks who were born before you, her stating she's been on the right side for 40 years is disingenuous at BEST and an outright fabrication at WORST. It is a lie, a bold face lie at that.
I could go through a whole laundry list of things that occurred before my birth, but are still relevant to the discussion today.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)HassleCat
(6,409 posts)Defense of Marriage Act, Don't Ask-Don't Tell, etc. We all have our own personal style. Personally, I like to lose weight by drinking beer and eating junk food.
onecaliberal
(32,478 posts)OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)an over-exaggeration. I think she is trying prove her bona fides and played a little word salad here. She's desperate, she's nervous, she's on live national TV and scared to death that Bernie is going to whip her in Iowa, so she word salad-ed it.
I've heard far worse actual lies.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)onecaliberal
(32,478 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Or something
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)INdemo
(6,994 posts)Chris Mathews with Hillary
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votesparks
(1,288 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)She's never been a fierce advocate for gay rights. She only does and says things on that issue to gain political points.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Anyone interested in the issues, knows she LIED. Where's the video of her on the Senate floor declaring marriage is between a man and a woman? It's on the Google machine.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
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in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Impressive.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Clinton was on the wrong side of history until at least 2012. I will never trust her.
jfern
(5,204 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)Yes.
Unequivocally.
And it is a lie.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Maybe she was against gay marriage because she was afraid of Bosnian sniper fire. Yeah, that's the ticket!
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Spot on with this claim. Those Homophobes have been treated so unfairly for 40 years, someone had to stand up for them!
I applaud Hillary's efforts to make Homophobes more equal!
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)My bad.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Her Royal Highness is depending on us to not misrepresent her positions.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)It depends of course on what the meaning of "is" is.
Vinca
(50,168 posts)That's not something to be terribly proud of.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Health Wagon
(99 posts)Flipflopper and a big fat lie.
madokie
(51,076 posts)as Joe Wilson might say