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What if I told you Hillary Clinton promises to cure Alzheimer's? (Original Post) Bread and Circus Jan 2016 OP
Wonder why she would choose that particular disease to champion? 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #1
No onecaliberal Jan 2016 #2
She should get together with my candidate. With Bernie's big vision and her attention to detail, she Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #3
Did she happen to mention anything about multiple ejaculations helping? Sheepshank Jan 2016 #4
ha, ha, that's ridiculo---oh, wait Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #6
Science is hard. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #13
so to speak Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #14
Best not to get into it. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #16
Hold firm to your position, though. Arugula Latte Jan 2016 #43
! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #45
"However, if Hillary relies on science" You do realize Bernie was quoting a medical journal, right? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #12
It's interesting that he should quote something that seems so mysoginistic Sheepshank Jan 2016 #23
Why would he need to walk something back that he read in a medical journal? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #24
I guess I'm on the same page as Hillary then. Sheepshank Jan 2016 #25
I prefer to educate kids. Abstinence only education doesn't work, Hillary is wrong. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #27
good for you.... Sheepshank Jan 2016 #28
Who said anything about your kids? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #29
Abstinance for a 10-year-old? Gee, no kidding. How about for a 17- or 18-year-old though? Arugula Latte Jan 2016 #44
I bet you thought that whole sequence could have gone better Android3.14 Jan 2016 #32
Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #36
Wow, obsession like this is disturbing farleftlib Jan 2016 #37
No wonder you support Hillary, with a "reality" this distorted LondonReign2 Jan 2016 #39
No. artislife Jan 2016 #5
If by "cure alzheimers" you mean "make sure no one with alzheimers can use an encrypted app on their Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #7
Moking the serious problem of Alzheimers is shameful. Do some Reseaarch riversedge Jan 2016 #9
Oh, please. Don't even try the overinflated phony outrage routine. POP QUIZ: Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #10
The subject is about YOU riversedge Jan 2016 #17
Nice try. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #18
You misspelled that catnhatnh Jan 2016 #19
Read the latest Reseach on this issue before you post silly OP's and look foolish. BTW Hilllary has riversedge Jan 2016 #8
Nope loyalsister Jan 2016 #11
I would think she was taking credit for the hard work of others. nt RedCappedBandit Jan 2016 #15
Not when Pres. Obama announces a program to cure Cancer 4 days later. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #20
So this month It's Alzheimer's and autism... catnhatnh Jan 2016 #21
Then I'd say you were incorrect. MineralMan Jan 2016 #22
Why do you make it so easy to show you are blowing smoke out of your mouth hole Android3.14 Jan 2016 #33
She wants to make funding available to make a cure POSSIBLE by 2025 MineralMan Jan 2016 #34
Wait. Has Bernie promised to do it in 10 years? thereismore Jan 2016 #26
I'm guessing you are lucky enough not to have had a parent with this disease Beaverhausen Jan 2016 #30
No my dad died of alcoholism and my mom died of endometrial cancer. Bread and Circus Jan 2016 #41
Hell no. VulgarPoet Jan 2016 #31
No (nt) bigwillq Jan 2016 #35
I'd be amazed...I had no idea she had a medical degree! demwing Jan 2016 #38
No. And if she did, the necessary drugs would probably be too expensive to afford. CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #40
I thought it was Clinton running, and not Martin Shkreli VulgarPoet Jan 2016 #42
 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
1. Wonder why she would choose that particular disease to champion?
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 02:25 AM
Jan 2016

Because of it's high cost to the Insurance companies? Someone she knows has it? So many diseases. Y that one?

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
3. She should get together with my candidate. With Bernie's big vision and her attention to detail, she
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 02:40 AM
Jan 2016

would make a great department head in his administration and together they would go far.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
4. Did she happen to mention anything about multiple ejaculations helping?
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 02:48 AM
Jan 2016

I figured that may be on par with Bernie's claim that multiple orgasms cures cervical cancer.

However, if Hillary instead relies on science, I'd say she may have some inside information about the status of the current research.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
12. "However, if Hillary relies on science" You do realize Bernie was quoting a medical journal, right?
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 07:47 AM
Jan 2016

Your obsession with orgasms and something that was cited 40 something years ago is more than a little strange. Especially since the only other people who think it's a big deal are right wingers. Of course we know how hung up on sex and uptight they are so that would explain why they're so shocked by it. ZOMG ORGASMS!!! *giggle giggle snicker hee hee* Those crazy liberals and their sex talk! They should seek guidance from the church, we don't need no stinking studies on sex! Who says wimmin need orgasms anyway? Hyuk hyuk!

There are lots of theories about right wingers and why they're so obsessed with sex but I won't get into them here. Let's just say they need to loosen up a little.

And what science was Hillary relying on here, a mere 11 years ago when she said marriage was a "sacred bond" between a "man and a woman?:



Were her homophobic religious beliefs about marriage scientific? Do you think the word "sacred" came from a medical journal?

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
23. It's interesting that he should quote something that seems so mysoginistic
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:11 AM
Jan 2016

....sounds like something that would be told to a woman to encourage her to have more sex whether she was so inclined or not, for medicinal purposes of course.

Has he ever walked it back, especially in light of the availability of Gardasil or has he promoted abstinence to avoid the viruses Gardasil can protect against? Of course not.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
24. Why would he need to walk something back that he read in a medical journal?
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:48 AM
Jan 2016

And it's funny you should mention promoting abstinence since it seems your candidate actually did that:

Teen abstinence is the right thing to do

Reaffirming her support for what used to be called teen celibacy Hillary reminded us that the point is to find out if it works. This is how Senator Clinton put it, in a paragraph I never saw quoted in the press.

"Research shows that the primary reason that teenage girls abstain is because of their religious and moral values. We should embrace this--and support programs that reinforce the idea that abstinence at a young age is not just the smart thing to do, it is the right thing to do. But we should also recognize what works and what doesn't work, and to be fair, the jury is still out on the effectiveness of abstinence-only programs. I don't think this debate should be about ideology, it should be about facts and evidence--we have to deal with the choices young people make, not just the choice we wish they would make."

Source: The Case for Hillary Clinton, by Susan Estrich, p. 55 , Oct 17, 2005

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Hillary_Clinton_Families_+_Children.htm


My my, it seems Hillary believes abstinence works, how very unscientific.

And the idea that only teenage girls should abstain seems misogynistic.

Has she walked that back yet?

It's a good thing you keep bringing this up. Again and again and again.

I learn more every time.
 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
25. I guess I'm on the same page as Hillary then.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 04:58 PM
Jan 2016

I've encouraged all of my young daughters to abstain...for several reasons

"....abstinence at a young age is not just the smart thing to do, it is the right thing to do" Thanks for saying it out loud, Hillary!!!

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
27. I prefer to educate kids. Abstinence only education doesn't work, Hillary is wrong.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 05:00 PM
Jan 2016

And telling girls to abstain for religious reasons like Hillary suggests is misogynistic and harmful.

Girls and women have been programmed by religion enough, making them ashamed of being human is sexist and a double standard.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
28. good for you....
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 05:11 PM
Jan 2016

however, I'll teach my own ten year old why abstinence is appropriate for now. I would never need your parenting advice.

You can also fuck your assertion that my parenting has anything to do with religion. The end. Done with you and your petty twisted attempts to portray my words as anything than exactly what has been said.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
29. Who said anything about your kids?
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 05:13 PM
Jan 2016

I specifically commented on Hillary's promotion of abstinence only education.

And if you don't want to listen to what I have to say about it you shouldn't have brought it up.

Abstinence only education is a horrible idea, it should not be promoted in our schools because kid's lives are at stake. What parents teach at home is their business.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
32. I bet you thought that whole sequence could have gone better
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 05:20 PM
Jan 2016

By now you have probably guessed that reality has a bias for Bernie Sanders.

The problem Hillary has is that it takes little effort to prove Bernie is as good, or better, than Hillary in every ethical and reasoned aspect.

People support Hillary over Sanders for only a few reasons

1) Benefit from the status quo.
2) Have not been harmed (yet) by the status quo.
3) Want a female prez sooo badly.
4) Really do not understand the problems we face (thank you, MSM!)
5) Some combination of the above.
-(Thanks to antigop for the list)

Response to Android3.14 (Reply #32)

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
37. Wow, obsession like this is disturbing
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 05:56 PM
Jan 2016

you keep dropping that turd all over a thread that is talking about Alzheimer's and it's creepy.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
39. No wonder you support Hillary, with a "reality" this distorted
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 06:01 PM
Jan 2016

It's OK, some people are sure Obama was born in Kenya, others that the lunar landings were a hoax. They someone muddle along in the world as well.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
7. If by "cure alzheimers" you mean "make sure no one with alzheimers can use an encrypted app on their
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 05:13 AM
Jan 2016

iphone", sure, I'd believe you.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
10. Oh, please. Don't even try the overinflated phony outrage routine. POP QUIZ:
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 05:38 AM
Jan 2016
What is the one thing Hillary Clinton has called for a "Manhattan Project" on, in this campaign?

You know, A Manhattan Project, a society-wide Apollo Program scale commit-the-entire-resources-of-the-civilization-to-achieve-this-supposedly-incredibly-important-goal. Those words, "Manhattan Project"




Hint: It's NOT curing Alzheimer's.

riversedge

(70,087 posts)
17. The subject is about YOU
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 08:36 AM
Jan 2016

mocking Hillary's proposal for Alzheimer's. Nothing else and you did mock it. End of discussion

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
18. Nice try.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 08:55 AM
Jan 2016

Actually, it's maybe about a 3 out of 10 on the try scale.

Deliberate obtuseness in ignoring the point, lame attempt at diversion through phony outrage, ignorance pertaining to the subject matter in question, and when all else fails, declare victory and go home.




If you decide to come back, you can answer my question.

riversedge

(70,087 posts)
8. Read the latest Reseach on this issue before you post silly OP's and look foolish. BTW Hilllary has
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 05:30 AM
Jan 2016

been talking of this for a few months now and has a proposal on her website.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
11. Nope
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 06:42 AM
Jan 2016

She is not a scientist or a medical professional until she gets those credentials she will not cure Alzheimer's or any other disease.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
20. Not when Pres. Obama announces a program to cure Cancer 4 days later.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 09:49 AM
Jan 2016

He stomped on that announcement of hers, hard.



MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
22. Then I'd say you were incorrect.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:04 AM
Jan 2016

She never said that. She said she wanted to make it a high priority to find help for people with Alzheimer's. She set a time schedule, but she's not a medical researcher. Alzheimer's research could use some serious prioritized funding.

Why Alzheimer's? Well, because it's rapidly becoming a very serious issue in this country. The Baby Boomers are aging fast and the number of Alzheimer's patients is climbing fast. It's a costly health concern and is going to require a lot of resources. It would be better to invest in trying to find effective treatments and perhaps preventive measures to lower the number of people who get the disease.

Hillary didn't promise to cure it. She promised to prioritize research in hopes of minimizing its impact on our society.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
33. Why do you make it so easy to show you are blowing smoke out of your mouth hole
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 05:29 PM
Jan 2016
Hillary Clinton Wants to Cure Alzheimer's by 2025

"We owe it to the millions of families who stay up at night worrying about their loved ones afflicted by this terrible disease and facing the hard reality of the long goodbye to make research investments that will prevent, effectively treat and make a cure possible by 2025," Clinton said.

That being said, at the current rate of progress, there will be a cure for Alzheimer's available (to the wealthy under Clinton, but for everyone with Sanders) by 2025.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
34. She wants to make funding available to make a cure POSSIBLE by 2025
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 05:31 PM
Jan 2016

That's very different from the title. All she will do is help get funding. The actual work will be done by scientists. A worthy goal.

Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
30. I'm guessing you are lucky enough not to have had a parent with this disease
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 05:15 PM
Jan 2016

you might not brush this off if you had experienced the hell that is it.

f*ck you

Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
41. No my dad died of alcoholism and my mom died of endometrial cancer.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 07:28 PM
Jan 2016

But if your goal was to be insensitive and offensive, you succeeded.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
31. Hell no.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 05:19 PM
Jan 2016

I would get a second, third, fourth, and fifth opinion if she said the sky was blue and water was wet, let alone a lofty assertion like that.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
42. I thought it was Clinton running, and not Martin Shkreli
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 07:32 PM
Jan 2016

but hey, they got one thing in common: they're both in an investor's pocket. Well, not so much Shkreli anymore.

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