2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe Nation: Why Is Hillary Clinton Using Republican Talking Points to Attack Bernie Sanders?
In a troubling failure of imagination, her campaign paints Sanders as naive for wanting to pursue better relations with Iran.
http://www.thenation.com/article/why-is-hillary-clinton-using-republican-talking-points-to-attack-bernie-sanders/
Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton during the Democratic presidential primary debate, Saturday, December 19, 2015, at Saint Anselm College in Manchester, New Hampshire. (AP Photo / Jim Cole)
By Ali Gharib
Campaigning in Iowa recently, Hillary Clinton, who is facing tightening primary races in key early states, made a shift. She went after her rival for the Democratic nomination, Bernie Sanders, and she hit him on foreign policy. Senator Sanders doesnt talk very much about foreign policy, Clinton told the crowd in Iowa. And when he does, it raises concerns because sometimes, it can sound like he hasnt really thought it through.
So far, Im in agreement with the former Secretary of State. Sanders doesnt talk much about foreign policy. Who, for example, are Sanderss foreign policy advisers? I pay some attention to these things, and I have no idea. When hes asked about global affairs, Sanders often steers his answers back to his domestic bêtes noires, such as inequality, and applies the concepts abroad. Not the worst sin in the worldcertainly, issues like inequality affect global and geopolitics as much or more than then do at homebut the lack of depth about the specifics of global affairs has long been on display.
The Clinton attack, however, went farther, hitting Sanders on the topic of Iran. Her campaign released an ad featuring Clinton foreign policy adviser Jake Sullivan almost mockingly describe Sanderss various position on Iran. The ad raises three issues: Sanderss purported proposal to invite Iran to send more troops to Syria to battle the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS); his notion of an anti-ISIS coalition that would include Iran and Saudi Arabia; and his comments during last weekends Democratic debate calling for moving toward warmer relations with the Iranians.
Without delving into the details, on the first score, the Clinton camp is basically right; on the second, theyve got a point. But they fail on the third point, which seems to be based on a willful distortion of Sanderss position. Heres what Sanders said on warming relations with Iran:
FULL story at link.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)That Iran nonsense seems to have come straight from Debbie's agenda.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)The right wing of the party is scared.
asuhornets
(2,405 posts)Actually I believe it is you and your fellow Bernie supporters who are scared. But you try and project your fears onto Hillary supporters.
We are very comfortable and excited about supporting Hillary and so are a million others. And she was awesome in the Town Hall Monday night.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)That's why we support the progressive, I'm glad it's so obvious, we get tired of having to explain it to you guys.
Proserpina
(2,352 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)What is hysterical is the willingness of her supporters to march lock-step with her off into rightwing-world.
You could support Clinton and agree with Sanders that single payer universal health care is a better policy.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)She would be better suited to be a RepubliCON.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)I expect her to act like a Republican most of the time, and I am usually right.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)By being allowed by TPTB to support a few 'liberal' social issues here and there, one can give the appearance of being something one is not.
In fact, I believe she actually does support liberal positions on a few social issues.
But that does not make her a progressive, or even a liberal.
And last night when asked by a "Sanders supporter" ( hummm), why many younger people think she is dishonest, she actually, AGAIN, referred to herself as a progressive.
BELCH !!!
cali
(114,904 posts)jalan48
(13,841 posts)Herman4747
(1,825 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)point"
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)As is pointing out Clinton's record.
Vinca
(50,237 posts)The party has moved right over the years as the wingnut Republicans have gone off the edge of the flat earth and we're now somewhere to the right of Dwight Eisenhower. I think it's time to bring the party kicking and screaming back to its roots.
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)Why would anybody that calls themselves a Democrat. create a Federal tax plan that taxes people who are living in poverty???? Bernie Has! Check out his new tax plan!
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)As has been explained a gazillion times already
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)Bernies Plan not mine. if u make $1 to $18K , u will be taxes 10%. People who live in poverty should not be taxed on what little income they have.
andrewv1
(168 posts)to win....
Hillary does not & if she is the Nominee, I expect the true Republican to carry the election.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)no reason to settle for a facsimile
7962
(11,841 posts)Waiting for some kind of corruption accusations to appear out of nowhere
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Would be my guess...
Jarqui
(10,122 posts)Clinton: Obama is naive on foreign policy
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/19933710/ns/politics-the_debates/t/clinton-obama-naive-foreign-policy/#.VqeTn5owhiw
Barack Obamas offer to meet without precondition with leaders of renegade nations such as Cuba, North Korea and Iran touched off a war of words, with rival Hillary Rodham Clinton calling him naive and Obama linking her to President Bushs diplomacy.
I thought that was irresponsible and frankly naive, Clinton was quoted in an interview with the Quad-City Times that was posted on the Iowa newspapers Web site on Tuesday.
In response, Obama told the newspaper that her stand puts her in line with the Bush administration.