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Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 02:10 PM Jan 2016

Bernie Sanders Refuses to Melt

Bernie Sanders keeps refusing to run the way that the pundits think he should -- that's what makes this primary so interesting and perhaps a turning point in American politics.

You could see it last night in the Democratic town hall. Before they let, you know, sensible people ask questions, there was CNN moderator Chris Cuomo. Cuomo, of course, wanted to know if Bernie Sanders was going to "bring back the era of big government." This is exactly the kind of frame that pundits have been trying to put on American politics for about as long as I can remember, which is at least back to the Carter era.

This question is supposed to be a kind of kryptonite that causes Democratic politicians to sweat and turn pallid and immediately explain that no, they're for efficient government or some such. It's the kind of question that turned Bill Clinton into a triangulating centrist who cut welfare to the bone and elevated corporate power with a series of disastrous trade agreements. Everyone in Washington knows that "big government" is always bad.

But Bernie wasted no time in saying that he was going to bring back the era when government helped care for people. He thinks government should help people go to college and pay for their medical care, which is what big government does in every other industrialized country in the world. He even -- in an ad released earlier in the day -- dared to advocate that people who have spent their lives working might deserve the chance to relax and be grandparents at the end of the day.

This kind of stuff makes the keepers of our political order crazy. In the last few days, we've seen folks such as Paul Krugman in the New York Times and Paul Starr in Politico patiently explain that Bernie is too far to the left to be president. It's like they're dumping water on the Wicked Witch of the West and waiting for her to shriek, "I'm melting!" But actually, he's just shrugging it off, like a duck. As Cuomo tried to get him to confess to his socialism, his team just tweeted out a list of "socialist" accomplishments: Social Security, the minimum wage, Medicare, the 40-hour workweek.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-mckibben/bernie-sanders-town-hall_b_9077552.html
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Bernie Sanders Refuses to Melt (Original Post) Bubzer Jan 2016 OP
Bernie is unapologetic in his support for us. azmom Jan 2016 #1
k&R Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #2
Sounds a tad defensive. Nitram Jan 2016 #3
You do realize the OP didn't write the title, right? demwing Jan 2016 #4
I understand your confusion. Nitram Jan 2016 #5
Your use of the term "Bernistas"... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #6
Few of us started that way. I certainly didn't. But the nastiness from Bernistas just wouldn't stop. Nitram Jan 2016 #7
"But Mom, (s)he started it!" ljm2002 Jan 2016 #8
Victim much? demwing Jan 2016 #9
I'm not sure where you get a defensive feel from this. Bubzer Jan 2016 #10
 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
4. You do realize the OP didn't write the title, right?
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:36 PM
Jan 2016

I understand your confusion. Reading is hard work!

Nitram

(22,765 posts)
5. I understand your confusion.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 04:03 PM
Jan 2016

Titles actually have meaning. Your snide comment about reading confirms the generally defensive posture Bernistas have assumed from the beginning. Kinda sad because he's a good candidate.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
6. Your use of the term "Bernistas"...
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 04:16 PM
Jan 2016

...confirms the generally condescending and snide posture that Hillary supporters have assumed from the beginning.

Nitram

(22,765 posts)
7. Few of us started that way. I certainly didn't. But the nastiness from Bernistas just wouldn't stop.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 04:20 PM
Jan 2016

And guess where I got the idea for "Bernistas" from?

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
10. I'm not sure where you get a defensive feel from this.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 06:05 PM
Jan 2016

I see it as showcasing how Bernie isn't playing the largely dictated politics-as-usual game, and is instead embracing the moniker of socialist. I see this is more of a snub to the establishment than anything else. I think it awesome that Bernie has re-appropriated the term socialist, and can't wait to see what he does next.

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