2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders Struggles to ‘Champion Women’ like Hillary Clinton
Good question, and NARAL had an answer. Senator Sanders once again highlighted the difference between an ally and a champion, Kaylie Hanson, NARAL Pro-Choice America National Communications Director, said in a statement about the Town Hall. His voting record is sufficient, but it doesnt make him a champion for women. That champion is Hillary. Cecile Richards has echoed that sentiment: We have a lot of friends in Congress, but we have one true champion, she said.
Clinton has championed abortion rights as central theme of her campaign to be the first woman president, while the Sanders campaign has been largely focused on fixing systemic income inequality and campaign finance reform, sometimes at the expense of other priorities. Once you get off of the social issuesabortion, gay rights, gunsand into the economic issues, he told Rolling Stone last year, there is a lot more agreement than the pundits understand.
That quoteoffered early in the campaignhas been widely interpreted to suggest that Sanders has ranked his political priorities, and that social issues like abortion could take a backseat in the Bernie revolution. We cant afford a Democratic nominee for president who treats abortion rights like an afterthought, wrote Emilys List president Stephanie Schriock on Friday. She went on to accuse Sanders of treating reproductive rights like extra credit, and noted that Sanders doesnt mention anything about abortion, contraception, or reproductive care anywhere in his entire health plan.
More at http://time.com/4192885/bernie-sanderss-abortion-hillary-clinton/
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frazzled
(18,402 posts)Where have you been these past years?
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frazzled
(18,402 posts)A number of states have all but made it impossible for clinics that perform the medical procedure to exist. Others have imposed onerous, intrusive rules on women.
I can see you don't care about these issues. That's fine. Just don't think all will right itself when the billionaire class is eliminated by the revolution. There will still be huge issues of inequality across the spectrum.
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frazzled
(18,402 posts)and the very real issues that face them. So don't preface your comments "with all due respect."
ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)States like Texas are passing laws that make it harder for abortion clinics to remain open. Abortion may be legal, but the access to these facilities is getting harder and harder. Many clinics have been forced to close down because of these draconian laws that states are passing.
Then there were also the whole thing about Congress defunding Planned Parenthood...
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DURHAM D
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DURHAM D
(32,606 posts)Are you at the coffee shop or library today?
zazen
(2,978 posts)So SCOTUS doesn't really have to touch it. The state GOPs just go about putting so many regulations on abortion services that they become inaccessible to women without the money and connections to get a "DNC" with their private gynecologist.
Here in NC they've added mandatory delays, imposed a stunningly invasive, insulting requirement to have your ultrasound mailed to a state agency, and added hospital-like regulations to abortion providers. Add to that the benefits that anti-choicers get from maniacs who threaten and/or kill providers and their staffers. . .
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tammywammy
(26,582 posts)tammywammy
(26,582 posts)SMH.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)They're actively passing laws to shut down abortion clinics.
zazen
(2,978 posts)She called it moving from "dependency to dignity"--making them put their kids in cheap childcare or leaving them with whomever to work minimum wage jobs.
I don't think that's "championing women:" it has hurt women, especially minority women.
Impoverished, and after the welfare gutting, physically exhausted, women have many fewer options when it comes to controlling their bodies, escaping domestic violence, and getting adequate healthcare and education for their kids. Stir in racism in salary, hiring, a for-profit prison system siphoning off Black males, and problematic law enforcement response to your needs . . . and you have the disasters you have in many pockets of urban America.
Nit-picking from a NARAL exec that Bernie didn't answer a question precisely to showcase her organization and current anti-choice threats is really insensitive to the larger realities of women's lives.It's not like he in any way is anti-choice.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Bernie Sanders in 2012:
The history of American democracy, to say the least, has been checkered. Our nation was founded at a time when people of African descent were held in bondage. After slavery was abolished, they were forced to endure legal discrimination for another 100 years.
When our country was formed, women were not just second-class citizens. They were third- or fourth-class citizens. Women couldn't vote or play a significant role in the political life of the nation. Women, in many cases, couldn't own property and were legally regarded as subservient in marriage. The educational and economic opportunities open to women were extremely limited. And, of course, women were unable to have control over their own bodies.
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We are not returning to the days of back-room abortions, when countless women died or were maimed. The decision about abortion must remain a decision for the woman, her family and physician to make, not the government.
We are not going back to the days when women could not have full access to birth control. Incredibly, here in the year 2012, that is exactly what the Blunt Amendment, which we defeated last month in the Senate, was all about. The Blunt Amendment would have allowed any employer who provided health insurance, or any insurance company, the right to deny coverage for contraception or any other kind of procedure if the employer had a "moral" objection to it. While I am glad that we defeated this horrendous amendment, it certainly was a sad day in our country when every Republican, save one, voted for it.
We are not going back to the days of wide-scale domestic violence, even if 31 Republican men in the Senate recently voted against the reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act because it expanded coverage to the gay community and Native Americans.
We are not going back to the days when it was legal for women to be paid less for doing the same work as men, even if the governor of Wisconsin recently signed a bill to repeal that state's pay-equity law.
Further, not only are we going to protect and expand those laws which deal directly with women's rights, we are going to vigorously defend the important laws and programs which protect all working people in our country -- women and men alike.
http://huffpost.com/us/entry/united-against-the-war-on_b_1464730.html
His record is impeccable:
http://www.ontheissues.org/social/Bernie_Sanders_Abortion.htm
Unlike Hillary Bernie never supported a ban on late term abortions, maybe that's why he has a 100% rating from NARAL.
Source: Senate debate in Manhattan , Oct 8, 2000
http://www.ontheissues.org/Cabinet/Hillary_Clinton_Abortion.htm
Bernie trusts women to make their own decisions.
ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)Btw, I thought you said you won't participate in my threads anymore. I'm irrestible, huh?
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)In the fall of 1996, locked in a tough re-election fight against Republican Susan Sweetser, then-Rep. Sanders got a big boost when feminist writer and activist Gloria Steinem came to Burlington. At the time, Sweetser was running negative ads attacking Sanders' liberal positions, and so the Sanders campaign held an event to highlight his support among progressive women. An opening act, a former state senator, told the audience that "a feminist is a person who challenges the power structure of our country" and "Bernie Sanders is that kind of feminist." When it was Steinem's turn, she started off with an announcement: "I'm only here today to make Bernie Sanders an honorary woman."
In his memoir, Outsider in the House, Sanders, who went on to beat Sweetser comfortably, called the event "the nicest moment of the campaign."
Watch:
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2016/01/time-bernie-sanders-became-honorary-woman
ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)organization as being politically opportunistic?
If 80% of voters want a raise in the minimum wage
yet the Congress does not pass it,it gives you just
a small example of how that works.
The members of these particular organizations
were not asked for their opinion, or do I have
that wrong?!